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re: I think Ole Miss fans are looking at this Kiffin situation from the wrong perspective.

Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by TheScogg
Member since Sep 2025
214 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:03 pm to
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So Nick Saban could have won a NC at JMU or Tulane or dozens of other colleges?


Saint Nick couldn't win at the level he did at Alabama now. That's why he left.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3879 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:04 pm to
The best coaches in the country right now are former Saban assistants without previous head coaching experience. It’s looks like Ole Miss got the next one. OL sad boy.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79184 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:04 pm to
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Deal with it.


Unfortunately Ole Miss fans will have to with Pete.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12481 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:05 pm to
Your AD didn’t help the turmoil. Lane was pissed and that’s his middle finger like it or not.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3879 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:07 pm to
We don’t mind. Both Ole Miss and Golding know what they are doing. That’s why you want to be us so bad.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50024 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:08 pm to
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The best coaches in the country right now are former Saban assistants without previous head coaching experience. It’s looks like Ole Miss got the next one. OL sad boy.

Good luck man
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3879 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:09 pm to
See ya in Oxford.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79184 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:10 pm to
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We don’t mind. Both Ole Miss and Golding know what they are doing. That’s why you want to be us so bad.


Adorable
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:49 pm to
It’s true that OM played its first truly meaningful game in 60 years this weekend.

The last two years, OM has enjoyed perhaps the easiest schedule of any SEC team in conference and has defeated no one of significance out of conference.

Even with that easy schedule, OM lost 4 SEC games in the last 2 years.

OM has not ever been to Atlanta in the SEC championship game.

OM has not won the SEC since integration.

OM has had success the last few years when other traditionally better programs, like LSU and Florida, have been down. Even then, bad Florida and LSU teams still defeated them last year.

By any metric, Ole Miss is a mid-tier SEC program, worse than Alabama, Tennessee, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, and probably even Auburn.

They found their best ever coach at the same time they had a very easy SEC schedule.

Everything returns to the mean. In the last 25 years, LSU has been a 9 win team with 3 national titles and another title game appearance.

LSU recruits about 10 spots higher than Ole Miss.

In the last 15 years, LSU has more NFL starts than MSU and Ole Miss combined.

Ole Miss is going to regress to their mean, just as LSU is about to return to theirs.

Ole Miss is a 6-7 win team. LSU is a 9, maybe 10 win team with a 12 game schedule.

It is what it is (and deep down Ole Miss knows it). The return to the mean starts in NOLA next week. Ole Miss is desperately trying to keep what Lane built, to include hiring an offensive staffer that coached under him.

Pete cannot start over because he’s not that guy. Truth told, he’s not that great of a DC. Ole Miss knows he’s a stop gap but they are projecting him to be Kirby.

They will attempt to hire Charlie Weiss Jr in two years to bring the magic back, but alas it’s gone.

Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
680 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:35 pm to
Would love to hear the rant's expert opinion on what gem was available in the coaching pool that we should have considered.

This ought to be good.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
5570 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:37 pm to
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Would love to hear the rant's expert opinion on what gem was available in the coaching pool that we should have considered. This ought to be good.



This^^^. Kiffin left at the last possible moment. That eliminated any chance that ole Miss could have attempted to bring in a more established coach. This isn’t difficult
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71769 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Your AD didn’t help the turmoil.


Continuing to repeated idiotic shite doesn’t make it true. The vast majority of the college football world agreed that Lane shouldn’t be allowed to coach the playoffs.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71769 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:48 pm to
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This^^^. Kiffin left at the last possible moment. That eliminated any chance that ole Miss could have attempted to bring in a more established coach. This isn’t difficult


And that is absolutely why we’re so pissed at Lane.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67028 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:48 pm to
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This^^^. Kiffin left at the last possible moment. That eliminated any chance that ole Miss could have attempted to bring in a more established coach. This isn’t difficult


The day after the final game of the year?

That's historically a big hiring day.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67028 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:49 pm to
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Would love to hear the rant's expert opinion on what gem was available in the coaching pool that we should have considered.

This ought to be good.


I would have hired Jon Sumrall in your situation.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71769 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:51 pm to
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I would have hired Jon Sumrall in your situation.


Yeah so would we. But unfortunately Sumrall didn’t want to wait for Lane to “make up his mind”. Rumor has it that he reached out to Lane to ask wtf he was planning to do because Sumrall didn’t want to miss out on a big time job on the chance Lane stayed.
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
680 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:55 pm to
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I would have hired Jon Sumrall in your situation.


Wasn't available. Already committed to Florida.

You sure you want to keep going?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67028 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:56 pm to
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Yeah so would we. But unfortunately Sumrall didn’t want to wait for Lane to “make up his mind”. Rumor has it that he reached out to Lane to ask wtf he was planning to do because Sumrall didn’t want to miss out on a big time job on the chance Lane stayed


Your insiders were all saying he'd be the hire if Kiffin left?

Y'all didn't have a deal in place?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71769 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:10 pm to
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Your insiders were all saying he'd be the hire if Kiffin left?


Correct. Sumrall wanted the job.

quote:

Y'all didn't have a deal in place?


Can’t have a deal in place for the next head coach when the current one is still saying he isn’t leaving. Sumrall didn’t want to wait any longer and get stuck with a bad job.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67028 posts
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:13 pm to
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Can’t have a deal in place for the next head coach when the current one is still saying he isn’t leaving. 


Why? Kiffin was announced at LSU before Sumrall at Florida.

Based on the things Ole Miss fans say, your AD is a clusterfrick.
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