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re: I think Ole Miss fans are looking at this Kiffin situation from the wrong perspective.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:06 pm to MedDawg
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:06 pm to MedDawg
He had an entire propaganda documentary made about how Ole Miss has changed him and left within 2 months.
Are we not allowed to feel emotional whiplash?
Contractually, he did nothing wrong. Arguably, professionally, he’s done nothing wrong either (though all the drama about who would be allowed to coach is entirely Lane created). Emotionally, come on. The documentary, the “I love it here” statements, how “happy” he was at Ole Miss, only to send his family on very public tours of Baton Rouge and Gainesville, and his general demeanor of “you don’t know you’re in the good old days until they’re gone” type of live, laugh, love bull shite he was spouting for 8 weeks. It isn’t “wrong” in the classic sense, but highly manipulative. And folks are allowed to feel how they like about being manipulated.
Contractually, he did nothing wrong. Arguably, professionally, he’s done nothing wrong either (though all the drama about who would be allowed to coach is entirely Lane created). Emotionally, come on. The documentary, the “I love it here” statements, how “happy” he was at Ole Miss, only to send his family on very public tours of Baton Rouge and Gainesville, and his general demeanor of “you don’t know you’re in the good old days until they’re gone” type of live, laugh, love bull shite he was spouting for 8 weeks. It isn’t “wrong” in the classic sense, but highly manipulative. And folks are allowed to feel how they like about being manipulated.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:20 pm to VoxDawg
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And his eye is always on the horizon constantly seeking a better gig.
Tennessee & USC should be career destinations, and yet he's always one foot out the door. After all, the *next* place he goes will be the one where he puts it all together
You could say these things of the vast majority of coaches.
The truth of the matter is that people just don't like Kiffin because of his trolling and immature behavior (mostly earlier in his career) and that's fine, but just be honest about it.
Thus, they have a problem with anything he does.
He repeatedly said he wasn't going to make a decision until after the regular season and then did exactly that yet people say he handled it wrong.
What could he have done differently realistically, other than just stay?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:24 pm to MedDawg
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Serious question. What did Lane actually do wrong? All of controversy before it was announced he took the LSU job was from journalists and fans. Lane wasn't saying anything.
The stuff behind the scenes is the issue. Polling the coaches in a meeting prior to the Florida game and not even attending meetings leading up to the end of the year. The whole thing was he thought this was a rebuild year and he was leveraging Ole Miss to get another job. Then what he did when he realized he wasn’t going to get his way is indefensible.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:28 pm to TexasOnTop
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After Saturday, I wouldn't be supprised to see Charlie Weis ends up somewhere other than LSU. Without Kiffin, that offense didn't take a step back at all. Starts to make you wonder about Kiffin.
This was against Tulane...you could have coached OM and won that game
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The truth of the matter is that people just don't like Kiffin because of his trolling and immature behavior
He's Spurrier without the charm or the result of success. It is what it is. Superior results cover a multitude of sins. People rightfully give the man shite because he's a preening jackass who (to this point) has no substantial credits to his name.
He absolutely has the potential to make the move to the next level and become a great coach with some real accomplishments, but that won't come until he grows the frick up and realizes that not everything is about Lane Kiffin.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:30 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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The stuff behind the scenes is the issue. Polling the coaches in a meeting prior to the Florida game and not even attending meetings leading up to the end of the year. The whole thing was he thought this was a rebuild year and he was leveraging Ole Miss to get another job. Then what he did when he realized he wasn’t going to get his way is indefensible.
We don't even know if those things are actually true or not.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:31 pm to VoxDawg
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He's Spurrier without the charm or the result of success. It is what it is. Superior results cover a multitude of sins. People rightfully give the man shite because he's a preening jackass who (to this point) has no substantial credits to his name.
He absolutely has the potential to make the move to the next level and become a great coach with some real accomplishments, but that won't come until he grows the frick up and realizes that not everything is about Lane Kiffin.
That's fair.
I'm just saying there's no way he could have handled this departure that would have been "good enough" for many folks.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:37 pm to UpToPar
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I agree. This is an honest assessment. I think if Keith Carter tells Lane, "look, I know you may be interested in other opportunities, but let's finish this historic season and then you can make your decision" I think Lane may have ultimately stayed at Ole Miss because LSU was not going to wait around for Lane to make a decisions and would have forced his hand. That may have made LSU seem unreasonable in Lane's eyes and swung his decision back the other way.
Where Keith Carter fricked up is thinking that he could use Lane's ability to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs as leverage to force Lane to stay at Ole Miss. That was the nail in the coffin IMO.
Y’all need to listen to some of McCready and Chase’s podcasts. Kiffin knew he was leaving. In fact he was hardly working after the Georgia loss.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:40 pm to Uga Alum
Which HC will you think can be okay for Ole Miss? No way I see the DC be the answer for Ole Miss HC in a couple of years.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:42 pm to 3down10
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And I'm not buying the idea that he raised Ole Miss up to some next level. Ole Miss had success because they are spending money and got lucky on an easy schedule.
And had a collective that was and still is out in front of the NIL trend….
And an Administration that finally figured out we needed to support the Athletic Department…..
And and AD that didn’t question any request and ensured it was supported…
And a helluva coaching staff especially on the defensive side once Pete showed up…..oh and he forced recruiting and portaling to a new level.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:43 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Y’all need to listen to some of McCready and Chase’s podcasts. Kiffin knew he was leaving. In fact he was hardly working after the Georgia loss.
Those dudes said a lot of dumb shite. Rebels have to realize sooner or later that their media is putting out some major sour grape vibes.
How much have they been wrong about so far?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:44 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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And a helluva coaching staff especially on the defensive side once Pete showed up…..oh and he forced recruiting and portaling to a new level.
Who forced recruiting and “portaling” to a new level?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:49 pm to VoxDawg
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And his eye is always on the horizon constantly seeking a better gig.
This is WAY overblown. Was Kiffin just supposed to stay a coordinator forever and not seek better opportunities like every other coach (and person in the real world)?
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Tennessee & USC should be career destinations, and yet he's always one foot out the door. After all, the *next* place he goes will be the one where he puts it all together.
Tennessee and USC are not the same, historically, nor did Kiffin have the connection to Tennessee like he did USC.
I don't get all of the hate Kiffin gets for job hopping. Most of his jumps were a natural progression and the only poorly handled one was Tennessee.
USC Assistant - 6 years - left to be NFL head coach
Raiders Head Coach - 2 years - fired (not his choice)
Tennessee Head Coach - 1 year - left for better job
USC Head Coach - 4 years - fired (not his choice)
Alabama Assistant - 3 years - left to be head coach again
FAU Head Coach - 3 years - left for better job
Ole Miss Head Coach - 6 years - left for better job
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:36 pm to Uga Alum
We’re not mad that he left we’re mad he left in the middle of the season after shitting the bed with one of the most talented rosters we’ve ever had in 2024
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:39 pm to Dougiejurgens3
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We’re not mad that he left we’re mad he left in the middle of the season
How would you have rathered he did it?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:33 pm to HunterDawg
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Richt was loyal to the programs that hired him.
Richt's first head coaching job was at a top 3 job, lol.
Of course, he was loyal.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:37 pm to Uga Alum
I do appreciate what he did, had he not threatened to gut our roster and not let the coaches coach in the playoffs if HE wasn't allowed to coach ...changed his narrative completely. It doesn't change what he did but he could have been upfront and honest I don't fault him for going to LSU, it's the way he did it...we will see what happens with Golding, I'm sure we will probably step back next year. I'm not sure if Austin Simmons stays or goes or who we bring in..I don't think Trinidad gets another year, I think Lacey is probably gone for 2 million to LSU but they better fix their o line..
But now people can see what can be accomplished here when everything is aligned and money is being printed right now in Oxford and you can't beat the publicity we are getting with recruits and portal players..as long as we don't get blown out by Georgia we get a good national recognition and a good chance of landing some great portal players
But now people can see what can be accomplished here when everything is aligned and money is being printed right now in Oxford and you can't beat the publicity we are getting with recruits and portal players..as long as we don't get blown out by Georgia we get a good national recognition and a good chance of landing some great portal players
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:34 pm to VivaZapata27
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and resources to win with a good coach.
Unfortunately, you hired Pete Golding without having a coaching search.
Could've easily went the interim route to stabilize things for the playoff run and then poached an up-and-coming guy wanting an SEC job.
Instead, you treated the coaching search the way the Democrats treated its last presidential nomination.
Pete Golding is your Kamala.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:55 pm to Broski
Pete Golding was the highest paid assistant coach in the asEC for a reason. Next great Saban disciple. Deal with it.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:00 pm to VivaZapata27
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Pete Golding was the highest paid assistant coach in the asEC for a reason
Yikes
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