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re: I need a history lesson Barners and Gumps
Posted on 10/20/09 at 10:55 am to bwallcubfan
Posted on 10/20/09 at 10:55 am to bwallcubfan
apparently, just ask bammer... 
These guys seem to know more about Auburn traditions than I do.
These guys seem to know more about Auburn traditions than I do.
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Posted on 10/20/09 at 10:56 am to BamaInHsv
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All I've read about it was that some sportscaster, seeing the Alabama linemen come out and them being so much bigger than the opponent's linemen, said: "...and here some the Elephants".
Really? There has got to be more behind the elephants than this?
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:00 am to BamaInHsv
All I've read about it was that some sportscaster, seeing the Alabama fans come out and them being so much bigger than the opponent's fans, said: "...and here some the Elephants".
fixed it for you.
fixed it for you.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:04 am to lowspark12
I've edited this thread so the Gumps can chime in about the elephants
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:07 am to fabtigers
I heard a few months back from a Bama grad that the elephant mascot came from a logo on packing boxes or something like that. Apparently the team was going to LA for the Rose Bowl one year and the boxes they used to ship equipment in had elephant logos on them for the shipping company or the manufacturer of the containers. The California folks thought it was put there by Bama as a symbol of the school and voila the elephant mascot was born.
I am more curious about the Crimson Tide. I have heard two stories on it - one that the team was called the Crimson and they played a game to a tied and the nickname started out from a headline or something as "The Crimson Tied". Another story I heard was that a radio announcer said the offense looked like "a crimson tide rolling down the field".
I am more curious about the Crimson Tide. I have heard two stories on it - one that the team was called the Crimson and they played a game to a tied and the nickname started out from a headline or something as "The Crimson Tied". Another story I heard was that a radio announcer said the offense looked like "a crimson tide rolling down the field".
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:07 am to bwallcubfan
Bama fans hating on teams who take stock in tradition. Halarious.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:10 am to PJinAtl
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I heard a few months back from a Bama grad that the elephant mascot came from a logo on packing boxes or something like that. Apparently the team was going to LA for the Rose Bowl one year and the boxes they used to ship equipment in had elephant logos on them for the shipping company or the manufacturer of the containers. The California folks thought it was put there by Bama as a symbol of the school and voila the elephant mascot was born.
my grandfather was on that Alabama team that played in the Rose bowl...he told me many stories about that season, but never heard that one...
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:20 am to Auburntiger
I've heard that a radio analyst exclaimed "Hold on, here come the elephants!" when Bama's linemen walked onto the field. I've also heard that it was a fan who said it.
The Crimson Tide was coined by sportswrited Zip Newman who noted that the team "Rolled across the field like a great crimson tide". So he gave us both the team name, and the cheer "Roll Tide".
The Crimson Tide was coined by sportswrited Zip Newman who noted that the team "Rolled across the field like a great crimson tide". So he gave us both the team name, and the cheer "Roll Tide".
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:22 am to bamawriter
What was Bama before the Crimson Tide?
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:25 am to Marines4Auburn
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What was Bama before the Crimson Tide?
We had a couple of names. We were originally known as the Cadets. We also used The Thin Red Line and The Crimson before settling on The Crimson Tide.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:26 am to fabtigers
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The Elephant Story
Elephant The story of how Alabama became associated with the "elephant" goes back to the 1930 season when Coach Wallace Wade had assembled a great football team.
On October 8, 1930, sports writer Everett Strupper of the Atlanta Journal wrote a story of the Alabama-Mississippi game he had witnessed in Tuscaloosa four days earlier. Strupper wrote, "That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast, aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.
"Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of ground.
"At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, 'Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,' and out stamped this Alabama varsity.
"It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size."
Strupper and other writers continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as "Red Elephants," the color referring to the crimson jerseys.
The 1930 team posted an overall 10-0 record. It shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217. The "Red Elephants" rolled over Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl and were declared National Champions.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:26 am to bamawriter
I thought it was "Tusk"aloosa, Al.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 11:28 am to chity
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I thought it was "Tusk"aloosa, Al.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 12:46 pm to bwallcubfan
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Also, what's the connection with Bama and Elephants?
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The story of how Alabama became associated with the "elephant" goes back to the 1930 season when Coach Wallace Wade had assembled a great football team.
On October 8, 1930, sports writer Everett Strupper of the Atlanta Journal wrote a story of the Alabama-Mississippi game he had witnessed in Tuscaloosa four days earlier. Strupper wrote, "That Alabama team of 1930 is a typical Wade machine, powerful, big, tough, fast, aggressive, well-schooled in fundamentals, and the best blocking team for this early in the season that I have ever seen. When those big brutes hit you I mean you go down and stay down, often for an additional two minutes.
"Coach Wade started his second team that was plenty big and they went right to their knitting scoring a touchdown in the first quarter against one of the best fighting small lines that I have seen. For Ole Miss was truly battling the big boys for every inch of ground.
"At the end of the quarter, the earth started to tremble, there was a distant rumble that continued to grow. Some excited fan in the stands bellowed, 'Hold your horses, the elephants are coming,' and out stamped this Alabama varsity.
"It was the first time that I had seen it and the size of the entire eleven nearly knocked me cold, men that I had seen play last year looking like they had nearly doubled in size."
Strupper and other writers continued to refer to the Alabama linemen as "Red Elephants," the color referring to the crimson jerseys.
The 1930 team posted an overall 10-0 record. It shut out eight opponents and allowed only 13 points all season while scoring 217. The "Red Elephants" rolled over Washington State 24-0 in the Rose Bowl and were declared National Champions.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:05 pm to RollTide MJ
"The Origins of the Name Crimson Tide" this was in our Al v SC program:
In early newspaper accounts of Alabama football, the team was simply listed as the "Varsity" or the "Crimson White" after the school colors. The first nickname to become popular and used by headline writers was the "Thin Red Line". The nickname was used until 1906. The name "Crimson Tide" is supposed to have first been used by Hugh Roberts, former sports editor of the Birmingham Age-Herald. He used "Crimson Tide" in describing an Alabama-Auburn game played in Birmingham in 1907, the last football contest between the two schools until 1948 when the series was resumed. The game was played in a sea of mud and Auburn was a heavy favorite to win. But, evidently, the "Thin Red Line" played a great game in the red mud and held Auburn to a 6-6 tie, thus gaining the name "Crimson Tide." Zipp Newman, former sports editor of the B'ham News, probably popularized the name more than any other writer.
In early newspaper accounts of Alabama football, the team was simply listed as the "Varsity" or the "Crimson White" after the school colors. The first nickname to become popular and used by headline writers was the "Thin Red Line". The nickname was used until 1906. The name "Crimson Tide" is supposed to have first been used by Hugh Roberts, former sports editor of the Birmingham Age-Herald. He used "Crimson Tide" in describing an Alabama-Auburn game played in Birmingham in 1907, the last football contest between the two schools until 1948 when the series was resumed. The game was played in a sea of mud and Auburn was a heavy favorite to win. But, evidently, the "Thin Red Line" played a great game in the red mud and held Auburn to a 6-6 tie, thus gaining the name "Crimson Tide." Zipp Newman, former sports editor of the B'ham News, probably popularized the name more than any other writer.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:05 pm to chity
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I thought it was "Tusk"aloosa, Al.
You would be partially correct. The name Tuscaloosa is named after an Indian chief by the name of Tuskaloosa, which means Black Warrior, which the river that flows through the town is called.
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Here is a historic map of Tuscaloosa from 1887 when the name was spelled Tuskaloosa.
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