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re: I mean 2019 LSU vs 2020 Bama isn’t even a debate

Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Except 2019 bama would beat 2020 bama.


No it wouldn't.

In 2019, Alabama was starting Shane Lee as MLB, the guy who calls the defensive plays. He was a true freshman.

On the 2020 team, despite all that experience and such, he didn't even make the 2 deep.

And Mac Jones > Tua. Despite playing tougher teams and not having cupcakes on the schedule, he still managed to do better and have a better season.

I'm guessing someone will say something about all the WR talent etc. Because 2019 had Waddle and Smith as well. But after a few more drafts, we'll be talking about the crazy amount of them on 2020 as well.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:59 pm to
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2020 Bama barely escaped a 4-loss Florida team who got beat by LSU's dogshit team of last year.


I seem to remember Florida's best offensive player, and the fourth overall pick in the draft, sitting out that game so he could be 100% ready for Alabama.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:01 pm to
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I seem to remember Florida's best offensive player, and the fourth overall pick in the draft, sitting out that game so he could be 100% ready for Alabama.


This doesn't change the fact that Florida was a 4-loss team, and Alabama beat team by a measly 6 points.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:02 pm to
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The regular season would have remained the same. If anything Bama may have lost a top 5 opponent in a regular season schedule then gotten to play the playoff teams.


The 2 extra games Bama got were...Mizzou and Kentucky
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36251 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:02 pm to
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The LSU coverage was closing around Waddle and pushing him toward the sideline, the facemask grab slung him out around the LSU coverage and into the open field.

The announcers noted this at the time during a later replay of the play.


Yet you couldn't tell me who was going to tackle him, and I guess you think it's impossible he could/would switch directions.

Go watch the guy play. He did that stuff constantly. I'm thinking he needs to call for a fair catch, next thing I know he's made 2 people miss with his first few steps and he's running downfield.

I can not think of a guy who is more shifty than he is.

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So you're saying Stingley has never been able to cover Devonta?

It's possible Stingley gives up a long touchdown on that play if he isn't looking at the sideline, but not likely.

The announcers noted this at the time too.

I find it odd that you want to say Alabama would've won if not for their mistakes but you assume LSU would still make the same mistakes.


So show me the game where Stingley covered DeVonta well, I'll wait.

I find it odd you think the things you mention are comparable. Waddle returning punts for a TD is not abnormal, nor is Stingley getting burned by DeVonta Smith.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Tigers0918
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:02 pm to
you just vastly underestimate just how important the offseason and a full year of practice really is.

To think teams in 2020 were nearly as strong overall as 2019 is just ridiculous. There is a reason teams practice as much as they do.

Otherwise why have spring practice, why have a full roster if none of that impacts how good a team is.

Bama had a great year, and they overcame and dominated in that year, but football as a whole was way down. You just can't deny that.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29314 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:05 pm to
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ou just vastly underestimate just how important the offseason and a full year of practice really is.



But everyone was on an even playing field. It’s not like Bama got to practice and other teams didnt
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29314 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:06 pm to


THE STATS DONT LIE
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65996 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:07 pm to
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So show me the game where Stingley covered DeVonta well, I'll wait.



Smith had what, 7 catches out of 40 pass attempts in 2019? You admit Tua couldn't get anything going till later in the game. Odd if Smith is running open every snap.

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Go watch the guy play. He did that stuff constantly.


How many punts did Waddle return for touchdowns at Alabama?
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36251 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:07 pm to
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you just vastly underestimate just how important the offseason and a full year of practice really is.

To think teams in 2020 were nearly as strong overall as 2019 is just ridiculous. There is a reason teams practice as much as they do.

Otherwise why have spring practice, why have a full roster if none of that impacts how good a team is.

Bama had a great year, and they overcame and dominated in that year, but football as a whole was way down. You just can't deny that.


Did some teams get to practice while others didn't? No, so it was something all teams had to deal with.

If Alabama got to practice and nobody else did, I could see your point. But that's not what happened.

I guess this means you think no team could be as good as a team from the 80's or 90's when practices weren't as limited right? No, because it's a stupid argument.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69294 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:09 pm to
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This doesn't change the fact that Florida was a 4-loss team, and Alabama beat team by a measly 6 points.


I never said it did.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65996 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Did some teams get to practice while others didn't? No, so it was something all teams had to deal with.

If Alabama got to practice and nobody else did, I could see your point. But that's not what happened.



The man is saying 2019 LSU was better than 2020 Alabama because they had an offseason.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29314 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:12 pm to
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The man is saying 2019 LSU was better than 2020 Alabama because they had an offseason.


Sheeet, give 2020 Alabama a regular offseason and we pop that arse by 2TDs. Hell we probably would without one
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36251 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Smith had what, 7 catches out of 40 pass attempts in 2019? You admit Tua couldn't get anything going till later in the game. Odd if Smith is running open every snap.



Yeah, the only bright side I noted for Tua was him throwing some wide open passes to DeVonta...

He caught 7 passes yes. What you left out was it was for 213 yards.



You are just grasping at shite now.

What did he do in 2020? 219 Yards and 3 TDs...in the first half alone. Most of it at the expense of Stingley.



This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:13 pm to
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The man is saying 2019 LSU was better than 2020 Alabama because they had an offseason.




Just imagine what 2020 Alabama would have looked like with an offseason.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38303 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Did some teams get to practice while others didn't? No, so it was something all teams had to deal with.

If Alabama got to practice and nobody else did, I could see your point. But that's not what happened.



Just look at yourself for a minute.

If you heard an LSU fan say:

We beat Alabama missing 12 players (7 starters from early season) and didn’t even know Kentucky would be able to field a team on The Wednesday before our game”…..then heard us knight for OSU A. F. T. E. R. You had disparaged them and the big10 ALL YEAR and Nd

Y’all would be stinkin up this joint so bad


It’s hilarious to hear the bamallectuals refuting each other while thinking they’re actually agreeing with each other.





I frikin love this bar.

High level intel going on here.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 1:18 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36251 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:14 pm to
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The man is saying 2019 LSU was better than 2020 Alabama because they had an offseason.


No, he was claiming that college football was down because of it.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15407 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:14 pm to
Maybe I’m over estimating his influence, but I give advantage to LSU and Joe Brady over Bama and Sark, both elite, advantage in my gut says Brady tho, I thought he’d be a great OC in college has he stayed
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65996 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Just imagine what 2020 Alabama would have looked like with an offseason.


But they didn't have one. You can't say a team is better "if" this had happened.

I mean, hell, imagine 2019 LSU if Devin White had come back.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69294 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 1:15 pm to
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Just look at yourself for a minute.

If you heard an LSU fan say:

“We beat Alabama missing 12 players (7 starters from early season) and didn’t even know Kentucky would be able to field a team on The Wednesday before our game”



This just sounds like poor roster management and bad protocols. That is all LSU and Kentucky.

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