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re: I mean 2019 LSU vs 2020 Bama isn’t even a debate
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:35 pm to GCTiger11
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:35 pm to GCTiger11
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I call you stupid because you hold it against teams of the future that they won't be able to beat a schedule like Alabama did, while being completely aware no team of the future will even be given a chance because the 2020 season was scheduled the way it was strictly to have football during a pandemic.
Is my Lakers fan comparison not simple enough for you?
Where in the frick are you getting that I'm holding it against teams of the future?
It's just something unique that isn't likely to be duplicated.
It doesn't mean it's impossible for other teams to be better or for a team next year to be the GOAT.
I don't give a shite about the NBA, Lakers or basketball in general. It's a shitty sport dominated by crybabies and attention whoring refs who have way too much control over the final outcome.
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:38 pm to GCTiger11
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Bragging about winning against an all-SEC schedule and claiming it will never be duplicated when no other team of the future will be given an-SEC schedule is absolutely retarded.
You could say the same about saying a 15-0 team is the best of all time when teams didn't have a chance to do that until recently. That's not how seasons are judged though. They are judged on stats and strength of opponents.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:39 pm to GCTiger11
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This guy is really a massive braniac.
"I believe 2019 Alabama beats 2019 LSU more than over half the time, because in my 9 other hypothetical games, we don't turn the ball over on the first possession because that's just insane. A massive change of momentum's LSU favor just doesn't happen in my 9 other hypothetical games. But every time Alabama seized momentum in the game, yeah that plays out the exact same away in all 9 of my hypotheticals. Therefore, 2019 Alabama wins 70% of the time. I'm so smart"
Basically he's saying if Alabama makes no mistakes and LSU makes the same ones, then Alabama will win.
No shite, Sherlock
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:39 pm to TigerLunatik
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You could say the same about saying a 15-0 team is the best of all time when teams didn't have a chance to do that until recently
Teams of the future have a chance to go 15-0
Who has a chance to play against an All-SEC schedule?
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:40 pm to mistaken4193
2020 Bama...GOAT!!!!!
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:42 pm to GCTiger11
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying or maybe I'm not saying well. If the all SEC schedule can't be used to separate that season from others because it doesn't have a chance to be duplicated then how is it fair to use the LSU 2019 season as the greatest ever if teams didn't have a chance to play 15 games and get 2 extra top 5 games until recently?
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:44 pm to TigerLunatik
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teams didn't have a chance to play 15 games and get 2 extra top 5 games?
But LSU didn’t have 2 EXTRA top 5 games.
According to the graphic SaturdayDownSouth posted...both teams beat 5 top 10 teams. It just means if Bama played 15 they would have beaten 7 top 10 teams
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:46 pm to TigerLunatik
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how is it fair to use the LSU 2019 season as the greatest ever if teams didn't have a chance to play 15 games and get 2 extra top 5 games until recently?
That's when some personal biases play in to an "greatest team historically" debate. But the fact remains, CFB teams in 2021 and forward can still one-up 2019 LSU.
Nobody will be given an all-conference schedule again. Brag about it? Sure. Using it as a bullet point to your GOAT team argument and saying it won't be duplicated? Stupid. Nobody will ever win the NBA Finals in a bubble again either.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
2013 was better than both. Top 5 offense and top 5 defense, averaged more points per game than both, a much better defense than both, a larger margin of victory than both, all 22 starters from that team played in the NFL. So you can't dispute the talent. I will say it again. All 22 starters played in the NFL. The only close game of the season was against Auburn in the national championship game. The stats prove that they were better.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
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That's cool and all but Waddle wasn't returning that punt for a touchdown without the facemask grab.
Based on what?
Jaylen Waddle INSANE 77 Yard Punt Return Touchdown vs LSU (2019)
Why did his facemask get grabbed to start with? Because he juked the shite out of the guy, and that was the only thing he was able to grab as he went by.
Who was going to tackle him next? Not #19 who didn't have an angle on him and is already himself trying to adjust from over shooting on the right side the same as the previous guy. You can see him trying to change at the 0:03 second in the game.
#49 maybe, but he doesn't seem like a guy whose really going to make that tackle, and Waddle has a potential blocker.
Who knows. What I do know is that entire play was 100% the skill of Waddle. The LSU player didn't just for no reason grab his facemask. He missed the tackle. Which is what Waddle does.
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Now you're just deflecting.
You keep claiming Stingley can cover DeVonta, but all we have is footage that shows the opposite.
There is no deflecting, just you claiming shite that was never true, and probably never will be true. When those 2 matched up 1 vs 1, Stingley got owned over and over.
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It was decent for this era of football.
Well no, they have these things called ranks. Where they take compare it to the other teams. And when they did they, they came to the conclusion that there were many much better defenses out there.
It was good enough for your offense, it got better as the year went on, and it got the job done.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:48 pm to mistaken4193
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But LSU didn’t have 2 EXTRA top 5 games.
According to the graphic SaturdayDownSouth posted...both teams beat 5 top 10 teams. It just means if Bama played 15 they would have beaten 7 top 10 teams
Lol wut?
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:48 pm to mistaken4193
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Worst Bama team since 07....with a hurt QB.
Except 2019 bama would beat 2020 bama.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:50 pm to GCTiger11
Another EGREGIOUS advantage LSU had was that the NCG was basically a home game.
Play it anywhere but New Orleans, Louisiana and idk if LSU beats Clemson.
Every Game Bama played in 2020 was neutral site and about the teams on the field
Play it anywhere but New Orleans, Louisiana and idk if LSU beats Clemson.
Every Game Bama played in 2020 was neutral site and about the teams on the field
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:52 pm to mistaken4193
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Another EGREGIOUS advantage LSU had was that the NCG was basically a home game.
Your national title game opponent literally won as many regular season games as 2020 LSU. Nobody gives a shite.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:52 pm to mistaken4193
It's really not even a debate. 2020 Bama would make 2019 Burrow lead LSU look like 2018 Burrow lead LSU.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:52 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Except 2019 bama would beat 2020 bama.
2019 Bama loses to any Saban Bama team but 07. The defense was horrendous and mauled by Injuries before he season even started
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:53 pm to mistaken4193
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But LSU didn’t have 2 EXTRA top 5 games.
Yes they did over teams before the playoff was created which what we were discussing. It wasn't a comparison to Bama.
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It just means if Bama played 15 they would have beaten 7 top 10 teams
No it doesn't.
The regular season would have remained the same. If anything Bama may have lost a top 5 opponent in a regular season schedule then gotten to play the playoff teams.
That graphic looks like it may be wrong anyway. After a quick look, I saw 5 ranked teams for Bama in the AP and CFP final rankings. AP had 4 top 10 wins and CFP had 5 top 10. I don't see where they came up with 6 ranked wins. Unless I'm missing something, the graphic isn't correct.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:54 pm to Chad4Bama
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2020 Bama would make 2019 Burrow lead LSU look like 2018 Burrow lead LSU.
2020 Bama barely escaped a 4-loss Florida team who got beat by LSU's dogshit team of last year. This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:55 pm to 3down10
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Based on what?
The LSU coverage was closing around Waddle and pushing him toward the sideline, the facemask grab slung him out around the LSU coverage and into the open field.
The announcers noted this at the time during a later replay of the play.
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You keep claiming Stingley can cover DeVonta, but all we have is footage that shows the opposite.
There is no deflecting, just you claiming shite that was never true, and probably never will be true. When those 2 matched up 1 vs 1, Stingley got owned over and over.
So you're saying Stingley has never been able to cover Devonta?
It's possible Stingley gives up a long touchdown on that play if he isn't looking at the sideline, but not likely.
The announcers noted this at the time too.
I find it odd that you want to say Alabama would've won if not for their mistakes but you assume LSU would still make the same mistakes.
Posted on 6/27/21 at 12:55 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Except 2019 bama would beat 2020 bama.
Disagree. 2019 Alabama might have been more talented on paper than 2020 Alabama, but 2020 Alabama was the better TEAM. The chemistry on that squad was probably the best it has ever been under Nick Saban. Never before have I seen an entire Alabama squad come off the bench to wish an offensive lineman well after a season-ending injury.
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