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re: I have a theory regarding title IX

Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:32 am to
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:32 am to
In all seriousness I don't see anything coming from any of this
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44376 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:42 am to
I have seen a ton of LSU fans saying that the Title IX investigation gives y'all a potential out to get rid of O, but I really don't think y'all appreciate the world of hurt that LSU the school, not just LSU the football team, could find itself in if it is revealed that school officials engaged in a widespread scheme to sweep sexual assault allegations under the rug. You're not just talking about getting rid of Shrimp Boat Ed at that point. If the investigation reveals things bad enough to fire him for cause then you're getting close to federal funding being put at risk. Like, I know that 1-2 more years of that moron running your football program into the ground is difficult to stomach, but firing him for poor performance is probably a much better outcome for LSU than firing him over Title IX violations.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 7:44 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:08 am to
Didn't Tigerlawyer say that? The NCAA is still going to hit LSU hard for blowing them off about the basketball case in the beginning
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:24 am to
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How could O be a "scapegoat" for Title IX violations? He has nothing to do with enforcing Title IX.



It may not be his job per se, but every single coach in an athletic department is responsible for reporting suspected Title IX violations that are reported to him or that he is aware of to appropriate authorities. So yeah, he actually has a helluva lot to do with it in that regard.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:27 am to
quote:

I have seen a ton of LSU fans saying that the Title IX investigation gives y'all a potential out to get rid of O, but I really don't think y'all appreciate the world of hurt that LSU the school, not just LSU the football team, could find itself in if it is revealed that school officials engaged in a widespread scheme to sweep sexual assault allegations under the rug. You're not just talking about getting rid of Shrimp Boat Ed at that point. If the investigation reveals things bad enough to fire him for cause then you're getting close to federal funding being put at risk. Like, I know that 1-2 more years of that moron running your football program into the ground is difficult to stomach, but firing him for poor performance is probably a much better outcome for LSU than firing him over Title IX violations.


This. LSU would be opening themselves up to all kinds of financial liability by those admissions. They could be sued back to the stone age.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52554 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:31 am to
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It may not be his job per se, but every single coach in an athletic department is responsible for reporting suspected Title IX violations that are reported to him or that he is aware of to appropriate authorities. So yeah, he actually has a helluva lot to do with it in that regard.






You do realize they were reported to the appropriate authorities right?
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 8:32 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:45 am to
quote:

quote:
It may not be his job per se, but every single coach in an athletic department is responsible for reporting suspected Title IX violations that are reported to him or that he is aware of to appropriate authorities. So yeah, he actually has a helluva lot to do with it in that regard.





You do realize they were reported to the appropriate authorities right?


I didn't say they weren't. You're the one who said that Ed Orgeron has nothing to do with enforcing Title IX. That was an idiotic statement.

I never liked Vandy having the female kicker...but are you going to actually sit there with a straight face and say that the head coach at Vandy isn't responsible for making sure she's treated properly in the locker room?

This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52554 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:49 am to
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I didn't say they weren't. You're the one who said that Ed Orgeron has nothing to do with enforcing Title IX. That was an idiotic statement.


I just meant in the context of this case.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:54 am to
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Hear me out. Woodward believes O is a bad coach and doesn't have much of a future here. He doesn't even attempt to cover anything up. His investigation results come out and title IX violations happened. He makes O a scapegoat and uses it as an excuse to clear house within the program and rebuild without burning millions of dollars.

Hypothetically could this happen?

ETA: I'm not in support of this just coming up with different scenarios. A lot of outcomes are on the table here and only time can tell what's going to happen.
The problem is that using Title IX compliance failings as a basis to terminate Ed for cause won't be the end of the Title IX problem, and will expose the school (and other high officials) to potential liability. You would only play this card if it became apparent that the Title IX matter was spiraling out of control. That's not going to happen any time soon. Frankly, I don't think anything will come of the Title IX stuff, other than bad PR, which is sad, but the way of the world.

LSU's real concern is getting slapped with a lack of institutional control finding by the NCAA, which has no connection at all to the Title IX mess. The self-imposed bowl ban, at this stage of the season, would be seen as an insult to the NCAA if it actually has any intention of calling LSU to account (which I'm skeptical about). LSU could end up playing with a short roster for the better part of this decade if the NCAA decides to drop the hammer, but given the connections to NCAA leadership, I am rather doubtful that this will happen.
Posted by Walnut
College Station, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3565 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:37 am to
I honestly think a number of SECR posters want LSU to fail as an institution

The bloodlust is real
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
23109 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:26 am to
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He makes O a scapegoat and uses it as an excuse to clear house

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