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Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:03 pm to bgator85
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But Florida having to do the buyout isn't worth it!
It is when you've lost the fanbase and you are building a $90 million football facility and about to announce $200M+ in football stadium renovations.
So, do you know who the next HC going to be? That is the problem. It isn't going to be simple. Most thought Dan Mullen was a homerun hired. That isn't true now. Has the AD found his next HC that will do a better job than Mullen?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:03 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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So if that is the case Mullen earned a bad year so why not give him one more and see what happens and hire someone next year if it goes bad.
Because when the writing is on the wall you don't wait. Time for the next guy up. And if he doesn't work, you start again. It was only going to get worse with Mullen, his program management was a disaster. These jobs aren't going to be a fit for most, but unfortunately most of the time you won't know it until they're sitting in the chair.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:05 pm to TrueLefty
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So, do you know who the next HC going to be? That is the problem.
No, but when fans don't have any hope the money stops flowing. A new coach generally brings a period of optimism and momentum.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:06 pm to TrueLefty
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Most thought Dan Mullen was a homerun hired. That isn't true now.
No shite. He had to go. He quit and the team quit. And losing to Missouri IS a fireable offense, believe it or not.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:12 pm to RollingwiththeTide
I tend to agree with what you are generally saying, but Florida really didn't have much of a choice. No way Mullen was going to right the ship because he doesn't care about recruiting.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:15 pm to bgator85
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Because when the writing is on the wall you don't wait. Time for the next guy up. And if he doesn't work, you start again. It was only going to get worse with Mullen, his program management was a disaster. These jobs aren't going to be a fit for most, but unfortunately most of the time you won't know it until they're sitting in the chair.
But the buyout is way too high! Waste of money! That is why I am saying maybe AD is at fault? Need get rid of him first?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:15 pm to RollingwiththeTide
Mullen should retire and go back to that bell tower in France. Florida needs a coach who is a big-balled shark fricker. No more midget hunchbacks. Hire Ed Orgeron.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:16 pm to bgator85
And has that thinking helped Auburn? They have not even got a bit better from last year. They stayed the same. And was a controversial call away from losing to Georgia State. If Nix had not played the way he did then they lose at LSU. The object of changing coaches is to hire a better guy than you have and give the program some hope. Auburn doesn’t seem to have a future brighter than what they did with Malzahn. The hire has to be right. Changing to just be changing can blow up the program and throw it into mediocrity or staleness for a longer period of time.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:19 pm to Hayt
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Most thought Dan Mullen was a homerun hired. That isn't true now.
No shite. He had to go. He quit and the team quit. And losing to Missouri IS a fireable offense, believe it or not.
Look at the record in the last 10 games against Mizzou-Florida. Why wasn't Mullen fired when they lost to Mizzou the first time?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:24 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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They have not even got a bit better from last year. They stayed the same
But that's not true. They've looked pretty good at some points.
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If Nix had not played the way he did then they lose at LSU
Correct. And if he's healthy for the rest of the MSU game and he plays the SCar game there could be two more wins.
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And was a controversial call away from losing to Georgia State
And last year there were two calls in two games that if they'd gone the other way Gus was 4-6.
We were done with Gus and they were done with Mullen. You can't fairly compare coaches 4 years and 8 years in with a brand new staff. There are almost always growing pains. Auburn's almost immediate success with the last couple of coaches is to blame for some of the unreasonable expectations.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:30 pm to TrueLefty
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So, do you know who the next HC going to be?
A Gator in another thread said sources say it is Napier.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:37 pm to Hayt
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But that's not true. They've looked pretty good at some points.
Not trolling. I just want your honest answer. Which games do you think Auburn has looked good in? I will give you Ole Miss and Arkansas...but Arkansas has lost 4 games and could lose 5.....so Ole Miss?
I am not trying to make a case for Malzahn. I think y'all did the right thing there. But (at least right now) Harsin is looking rough at best.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:46 pm to Hayt
Look there have been times this year that The Auburn coaching staff has looked as bad or worse than last years. They started the season looking very good and I thought that the change was gonna be a success despite hiring the wrong guy imo. But from the Ga State game on it has looked like last years team pretty much. It was time for Malzahn to go but there was guys the same caliber of coach as the guy they hired out there that had coached in the South all their lives.
Unless Bo or Cam was walking through the door to play the second half of the MSU game or against USCe then Auburn was not going to win those two games. Maybe Carolina could have been won but MSU would have beaten Auburn anyway. And I highly doubt the USCe game would have went much different. Carolina just played inspired football and just wanted that game more.
Auburn is a call or two away this year from having a couple of more losses. So far the changed has not worked. You have to replace a guy with the right guy or it for sure fail and throw you back in the program’s growth even further than what it was. If you are lucky you can at least break even. But at Florida they wanna big name head coach not a Middle of the pack guy. But they are most likely going to replace a middle of the pack guy with the same thing or less. So why not wait a year at least.
Unless Bo or Cam was walking through the door to play the second half of the MSU game or against USCe then Auburn was not going to win those two games. Maybe Carolina could have been won but MSU would have beaten Auburn anyway. And I highly doubt the USCe game would have went much different. Carolina just played inspired football and just wanted that game more.
Auburn is a call or two away this year from having a couple of more losses. So far the changed has not worked. You have to replace a guy with the right guy or it for sure fail and throw you back in the program’s growth even further than what it was. If you are lucky you can at least break even. But at Florida they wanna big name head coach not a Middle of the pack guy. But they are most likely going to replace a middle of the pack guy with the same thing or less. So why not wait a year at least.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:47 pm to DawgsLife
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Absolutely. They've been around for 100+ years and so far they have had Spurrier, Meyer and....and.....and....
Help me out here.
Those 2 coaches won more National Championships than your entire football program, in it's history.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:48 pm to makersmark1
Apparently Mullen, Muschamp, Zook and the shark humper couldn't.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 5:03 pm to Kansas City King
You cannot continue to lose games you should win handily. That was Mullen’s issue. He wasn’t prioritizing recruiting and was failing to make staff changes that were obviously needed. Mullen forced Florida’s hand to fire him.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 5:24 pm to gatordmb89
He did the same at state. Upset wins and drop games he shouldn't.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 5:42 pm to dchog
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He did the same at state. Upset wins and drop games he shouldn't.
Then flirt with other jobs like he's got it like that.
His flirtation with NFL bit him in the arse.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 5:43 pm to Go Go Gata
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You cannot continue to lose games you should win handily. That was Mullen’s issue. He wasn’t prioritizing recruiting and was failing to make staff changes that were obviously needed. Mullen forced Florida’s hand to fire him.
Agree
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