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How Nick Saban's dominance impacted coaching futures of Richt, Miles (Wetzel)

Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:37 pm
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:37 pm
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Essentially, Saban is the sun in which the entire SEC rotates around – everyone trying to find the solution to Alabama's relentlessness.

He's the key figure in the surge the conference enjoyed as the commanding league in college football, but eventually he's left the place with such insecurity that it has been gutted back to a level toward average. What was once the unquestioned top-to-bottom best conference in the country now has just one elite team – Saban's of course.

It's not that the Tide can't be beat – they've lost an SEC game in each of the past six seasons. It's that they don't crumble after they do lose.


Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:39 pm to
Well he is probably correct. When both schools are getting equal talent as Bama essentially, and net results don't match, it is going to eventually call for change.
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Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:39 pm to
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So Georgia dumped a good man and a good coach on Saturday, for a variety of reasons but mostly because, despite a 145-51 record, he couldn't make the ultimate leap to the title. And LSU tried to dump Miles despite a 111–32 record, because he couldn't do it either since 2007. Miles survived, but the soap opera will be difficult to rally from as rival coaches use the job uncertainty with recruits and everyone in Baton Rouge tries to figure out who is backstabbing whom.
Posted by ksrph
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:41 pm to
I actually think he uses the loss to motivate his team's. Not saying he wants them to lose but he uses it as a tool.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:42 pm to
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When both schools are getting equal talent as Bama



Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:42 pm to
Nailed it.
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:45 pm to
Pretty much. Thanks Saban for ruining the SEC. a-hole
Posted by Tacoma Tiger
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:46 pm to
In B4 can't beat Freezus.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:55 pm to
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In B4 can't beat Freezus.


I can't think of a less insufferable SECW fanbase to lose to.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:01 pm to
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And LSU tried to dump Miles despite a 111–32 record, because he couldn't do it either since 2007. Miles survived, but the soap opera will be difficult to rally from as rival coaches use the job uncertainty with recruits and everyone in Baton Rouge tries to figure out who is backstabbing whom.


What a ridiculous shite show.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:02 pm to
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– everyone trying to find the solution to Alabama's relentlessness.


That's easy. It's not that everyone else has bad coaches, it's that everyone else doesn't have the REC recruiting ma$$hine working for them. As TJ Yeldon said "Bammer is taking care of my family." Rent Richardson's mamma knows this too. I mean when bammer can swing a guy who has an AU tattoo at the last second, you know $something i$ up.

As Spurrier said, Alabama has always won football games. There's nothing Saban is doing that's special other than bringing in a #1 class every single season. And he isn't doing that without help, I assure you. He's got a herd of red elephants behind him.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:03 pm to
Essentially yes my statement is correct, and UGA was in the shitty East to boot and couldn't win with superior talent in reference to the other East teams.
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:06 pm to
I think something overlooked is who Alabama was before Saban was hired.

Alabama hadn't been a respectable program since 1992. Even after they won an NC, you could see the wheels falling off with the people behind the scenes trying to control too much. Then the sanctions and Shula years. The idea that Alabama of all schools could become not just a powerhouse but THE premier program in college football was laughable.

I think a lot of fanbases are thinking they too can have that kind of success. And they're demanding it. Expecting it. And when they don't get it, they want blood.
Posted by SmokeTide
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:07 pm to
Whine for your cheese, Sir?
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:09 pm to
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And he isn't doing that without help, I assure you. He's got a herd of red elephants behind him.



Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:09 pm to
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"It will certainly be a challenge for us."

Florida scored two points on Saturday in a loss to Florida State.


Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:10 pm to
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That's easy. It's not that everyone else has bad coaches, it's that everyone else doesn't have the REC recruiting ma$$hine working for them. As TJ Yeldon said "Bammer is taking care of my family." Rent Richardson's mamma knows this too. I mean when bammer can swing a guy who has an AU tattoo at the last second, you know $something i$ up.

As Spurrier said, Alabama has always won football games. There's nothing Saban is doing that's special other than bringing in a #1 class every single season. And he isn't doing that without help, I assure you. He's got a herd of red elephants behind him.


Is an Auburn fan really typing this? Pot meet kettle much?
Posted by Meat Newtons
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:16 pm to
Go to the NCAA website.. & search for the schools with the most major violations.
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:19 pm to
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In B4 can't beat Freezus.


2-2 vs Freeze. Saban lets Freeze win because he knows Ole Miss will always find a way to screw up their chance at making it to Atlanta. Any other team may have the chance to run the table, but you can always count on Ole Miss to be the Clemson of the SECW.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:25 pm to
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Alabama hadn't been a respectable program since 1992.


So the four SEC Championship Game appearances, the five 10-win seasons, and the 10 bowl appearances post-1992 are indicative of a program losing its wheels?

Alabama was one of the best programs in the country until Stallings resigned at the end of the '96 season. He averaged 10 wins a season from 1990-96 and had us in the discussion more often than not. Alabama's long term trouble began with Mike DuBose and Albert Means.
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