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How Much Strain Does the HUNH Put on the Same Team's Defense?

Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:58 pm
Posted by LSUFOREVERAMEN
Illinois
Member since Dec 2013
1300 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 9:58 pm
Whenever I see the HUNH run correctly, I almost never see the offense stall. And as long as you keep the ball moving, you run some clock off the board. If you score, your defense also gets the benefit of the commercial break to get rested up.

So, does is HUNH tactic a detriment to the same team's defense?

By a lot of measures, the 2011 BCS NCG was a defensive slugfest. Yet both teams were HUNH.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:00 pm to
I wish these HUNH threads would go away now that the rule was shot down
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6433 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:00 pm to
By running more plays, your exposing more series to your defense.

So instead of one or two possessions a quarter (sometimes three) your defense gets exposed to 3/4/5 and maybe even 6.
Posted by LSUFOREVERAMEN
Illinois
Member since Dec 2013
1300 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

So instead of one or two possessions a quarter (sometimes three) your defense gets exposed to 3/4/5 and maybe even 6.


Yeah, but if your offense can't convert a third down, your defense is right back on the field as well...except, this time with a shorter field to defend.

As long as you move the ball, your defense gets to rest.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:03 pm to
I've heard this mentioned a lot as how defenses aren't as rested because of the big play ability.

The only metric I could think of, off of my head, was scores per game (TD and FG) divided by time of possession per game. Obviously, this will be much lower with a bad offensive team so it's not perfect.

Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:04 pm to
This is a legitimate question, IMO.

We need some of the more technically knowledgeable posters to chime in.
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
1691 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:14 pm to
You've come to the wrong place.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

sonuvapitcher


Five posts since August 2008?

WTF?

Post less.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:17 pm to
The bama-a&m game is a perfect example. Bama could have just played their normal slower paced offensive scheme and just as easily scored, but they started playing up tempo for most of the game. Both defenses were on the field more frequently leading to more points on both sides. Not sure what the injury report for the game was though.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Not sure what the injury report for the game was though.


Multiple casualties, just ask Bert.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:20 pm to
Same with lsu-uga. At the end of the game lsu scored too quickly and sent out an already gassed defense. Georgia then went through them like a hot knife through butter.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Same with lsu-uga. At the end of the game lsu scored too quickly and sent out an already gassed defense. Georgia then went through them like a hot knife through butter.


Dis true.

Iron Bowl too. AU/UGA too.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79994 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:22 pm to
There's less pressure on some defenses that know their offense can score at will.

The 2012 A&M first string defense, as the year progressed, wanted to get off the field quickly to see what Johnny was going to do next.
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2394 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

the wrong place.
quote:

Houma, LA


I can't think of a "wronger" place.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

The bama-a&m game is a perfect example. Bama could have just played their normal slower paced offensive scheme and just as easily scored, but they started playing up tempo for most of the game.


Not really. A&M's defense was so bad it just seemed like it.
For example:
First scoring drive (A&M was up 14-0)
Incomplete pass
13 yard pass
13 yard pass
15 yard rush
12 yards pass
22 yards pass for a TD

2nd scoring drive
Incomplete pass
Incomplete pass
21 yard pass
incomplete pass
15 yard pass
44 yard pass for a TD

Third scoring drive
2 yard rush
27 yard pass
incomplete pass
51 yard pass for a TD

etc.

The next two scoring drives were 10 or more plays and both chewed up over 5 minutes of clock.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Not really. A&M's defense was so bad it just seemed like it.


Never thought about that. The Aggie defense was so bad it made every offense look like a HUNH.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59603 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 5:30 am to
I would take Houma over Beaumont. Beaumont is horrible. I don't even stop there for gas.
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