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How much credit does Coach O deserve for 2019?
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:23 pm
Les Miles was fired from LSU on September 25, 2016. Let's take a look at which players committed out of high school to LSU while under Orgeron and which players committed under Miles.
Of LSU's starters and key backups:
Orgeron
Starting WR Jamarr Chase
Starting WR Terrace Marshall
Starting WR Justin Jefferson
Starting CB Derek Stingley
Starting OLB K'lavon Chaisson
Backup WR Racey McMath
Backup LB Damone Clark
Miles
Starting OT Saahdiq Charles
Starting OG Adrian Magee
Starting C Lloyd Cushenberry
Starting OT Austin Deculus
Starting RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Starting LB Patrick Queen
Starting NT Tyler Shelvin
Starting DT Rashard Lawrence
Starting LB Michael Divinity
Starting LB Jacob Phillips
Starting CB Kristian Fulton
Starting S Grant Delpit
Starting S Jacoby Stevens
Starting S Kary Vincent Jr.
Backup DE Glen Logan
Backup DE Neil Farell Jr.
Backup TE Stephen Sullivan
Backup WR Derick Dillon
Players that transferred to LSU under O
Starting TE Thadeus Moss
Starting OG Damien Lewis
Starting DE Breiden Fehoko
Starting QB Joe Burrow
So looking at this, it looks like Miles is responsible for almost the entire OL and defense. The only position group that O recruited well was WR.
So after looking at this, I've determined that the three coaches most responsible for LSU's championship are Les Miles, Joe Brady, and Urban Meyer.
Of LSU's starters and key backups:
Orgeron
Starting WR Jamarr Chase
Starting WR Terrace Marshall
Starting WR Justin Jefferson
Starting CB Derek Stingley
Starting OLB K'lavon Chaisson
Backup WR Racey McMath
Backup LB Damone Clark
Miles
Starting OT Saahdiq Charles
Starting OG Adrian Magee
Starting C Lloyd Cushenberry
Starting OT Austin Deculus
Starting RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Starting LB Patrick Queen
Starting NT Tyler Shelvin
Starting DT Rashard Lawrence
Starting LB Michael Divinity
Starting LB Jacob Phillips
Starting CB Kristian Fulton
Starting S Grant Delpit
Starting S Jacoby Stevens
Starting S Kary Vincent Jr.
Backup DE Glen Logan
Backup DE Neil Farell Jr.
Backup TE Stephen Sullivan
Backup WR Derick Dillon
Players that transferred to LSU under O
Starting TE Thadeus Moss
Starting OG Damien Lewis
Starting DE Breiden Fehoko
Starting QB Joe Burrow
So looking at this, it looks like Miles is responsible for almost the entire OL and defense. The only position group that O recruited well was WR.
So after looking at this, I've determined that the three coaches most responsible for LSU's championship are Les Miles, Joe Brady, and Urban Meyer.
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:26 pm to diddlydawg7
He was most likely overseeing the payments going back a couple years
So lots of credit
So lots of credit
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:27 pm to diddlydawg7
He deserves neaux credit.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:29 pm to diddlydawg7
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Hired by LSU head coach Les Miles in January of 2015 as a defensive line coach, Orgeron also served as recruiting coordinator
@ OP 
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:31 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Orgeron also served as recruiting coordinator
So he was the bag man?
When these guys committed they didn’t realize they’d actually have to play for the YawYaw Football man.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:31 pm to diddlydawg7
Miles did nothing for nearly a decade with just as talented rosters. I know this is a troll but c'mon.
Also this team is primarily comprised of the 2018 class, one of LSU's worst in recent history. Recruiting has been elite for the past few years and 2022 looks to be one of LSU's best ever classes. In two to three years, LSU will be just as, if not more talented than at any point in Miles' tenure.
Yes, this team is BAD, and Pelini needs to get out, but the future still looks good in Baton Rouge
Also this team is primarily comprised of the 2018 class, one of LSU's worst in recent history. Recruiting has been elite for the past few years and 2022 looks to be one of LSU's best ever classes. In two to three years, LSU will be just as, if not more talented than at any point in Miles' tenure.
Yes, this team is BAD, and Pelini needs to get out, but the future still looks good in Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:33 pm to diddlydawg7
All of it, he was the recruiting coordinator for Miles and he hired the real brains behind it in Brady. He also deserves all the credit for the disaster his team is this year. He didn’t replace the people he needed to replace well. Both can be true.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:34 pm to diddlydawg7
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:37 pm to diddlydawg7
This is all wrong you stupid frick
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:38 pm to Solo Cam
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This is all wrong you stupid frick
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:39 pm to atomic31
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In two to three years, LSU will be just as, if not more talented than at any point in Miles' tenure.
Pretty heavily dependent on the eventual scholarship reduction penalties.
They will likely have a lot of highly talented players, but lack the depth of other teams as they'll remain below a full complement of scholarship players.
Still, they will have plenty of talent to win ball games. O needs to bring the magic back next yr for 9+ wins or he may be in trouble. Not sure how many blowouts the base will take this yr. That has been the most surprising part.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:39 pm to diddlydawg7
Orgeron:NCAA::Switzer:NFL
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:40 pm to diddlydawg7
Stealing CNB’s content too? Sad.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:42 pm to diddlydawg7
All the credit should go to the Genius Ensminger. He revolutionized the offense.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:46 pm to Che Boludo
That's fair enough, but to be honest LSU only has 60 or so players on scholarship as we speak, so I don't think the reductions will be as big of a problem as they first seem.
But you're right, LSU has the talent right NOW to when most of the games on the schedule. I think O deserves credit for last year, but I am a little concerned about the mindset of this year's' team. Time will tell if he can get it together.
But you're right, LSU has the talent right NOW to when most of the games on the schedule. I think O deserves credit for last year, but I am a little concerned about the mindset of this year's' team. Time will tell if he can get it together.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:46 pm to diddlydawg7
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Starting OT Saahdiq Charles
Starting C Lloyd Cushenberry
Starting OT Austin Deculus
Starting LB Patrick Queen
Starting NT Tyler Shelvin
Starting LB Jacob Phillips
Starting S Grant Delpit
Starting S Jacoby Stevens
Starting S Kary Vincent Jr.
Backup DE Glen Logan
All signed with Ed as the head coach
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:47 pm to diddlydawg7
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:47 pm to diddlydawg7
According to Pro Football Focus, LSU’s offensive line actually graded out as a very average unit last year. Their offense played at a historically great level entirely due to Joe Burrow and their skill position players along with Joe Brady’s brilliant offensive skills. And Orgeron brought in all of those guys except CEH. He deserves all of the credit in the world for LSU’s incredible offense last year.
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:49 pm to Solo Cam
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All signed with Ed as the head coach
All committed under Miles
Posted on 11/1/20 at 1:49 pm to diddlydawg7
You have a weird obsession with LSU
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