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re: How many of your QBs have thrown for over 3,000 yards in a season?
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:44 am to UndercoverBryologist
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:44 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Almost any DB will be unable to cover a WR for more than 4 seconds.
Most of our gains in the passing game in 2011 were via Jim McElwain's patented shallow, underneath crossing routes. We also utilized the H-Backs like Brad Smelley in the flats quite a bit. Obviously the play action pass was our kill shot thanks to the solid running game we employed, but McCarron was more of an underneath passer in his first year as a starter.
And you can't tell me he had four seconds to find his receivers against LSU in that championship game where he was the game's MVP.
I'm not saying McCarron is the greatest QB of all-time, I'm simply saying he was a good college QB. To deny that is to deny facts and logic.
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Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
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Jerrod Johnson in 2009
Ryan Tannehill in 2011
Johnny Manziel in 2012 and 2013
Kellen Mond in 2018
Jerrod Johnson in 2009
Ryan Tannehill in 2011
Johnny Manziel in 2012 and 2013
Kellen Mond in 2018
This post was edited on 2/20/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:47 am to RollTide1987
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but McCarron was more of an underneath passer in his first year as a starter.
And you can't tell me he had four seconds to find his receivers against LSU in that championship game where he was the game's MVP.
I think we are agreeing on the facts but somehow coming to different conclusions on whether it makes McCarron look bad or good.
Yes, in the NCG, Bama employed a death by a thousand cuts approach by throwing into the flats, throwing screens, and swing passes to shallow routes.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:49 am to UndercoverBryologist
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Not just rules, but also more games. The regular season has increased by 1 game in 30 years. And there are more bowl games. Back in the early 90s, if you managed a 6-5 regular season, you wouldn’t be guaranteed a bowl game. Now, at 6-6 (technically a worse record), you can rest assured you will get a bowl game.
Bowl stats also count now.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:50 am to UndercoverBryologist
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I think we are agreeing on the facts but somehow coming to different conclusions on whether it makes McCarron look bad or good.
Regardless of whether or not it makes McCarron look good or bad, he did what he was supposed to do with the tools he had at his disposal. He was a highly intelligent and competent QB who more often than not made the right reads with the football. When his number was called, he usually delivered. There isn't a single Alabama fan out there who would single him out for GOAT status, but we all remember him as one of the very best to put on a Crimson jersey at Alabama.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:54 am to BigOrangeLoyalist
My bad good catch! cheers:
Posted on 2/20/22 at 9:54 am to RollTide1987
Will Rogers with 4700 this past season
Dak in 2014 and 2015
Tyler Russell got close in 2012 with about 2,900
Dak in 2014 and 2015
Tyler Russell got close in 2012 with about 2,900
Posted on 2/20/22 at 10:02 am to RollTide1987
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When his number was called, he usually delivered.
I'd say so.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 11:08 am to RollTide1987
Chase Daniel (2006, 2007, 2008)
Blaine Gabbert (2009, 2010)
Drew Lock (2016, 2017, 2018)
Blaine Gabbert (2009, 2010)
Drew Lock (2016, 2017, 2018)
Posted on 2/20/22 at 12:33 pm to meansonny
Did not expect UGA and Mizzou to tie for first w/ 8. Ole Miss in third place with 7?
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:35 pm to RollTide1987
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Yeah, I'm sure that 2011 WR corps struck fear into the hearts of SEC secondaries with names like Darius Hanks, Marquis Maze, DeAndrew White, and Kenny Bell.
Maze was solid — your receivers were literally the only position that didn’t have multiple All Americans. And it probably had something to do with your QB throwing for 16 TDs. A whopping 1 a game. Give him the hall of fame jacket. Still doesn’t disprove my point. Your o line was easily the best in the nation, you had two blue chip tailbacks, and not to mention one of the best defenses of all time lol.
His success stemmed solely from the players around him. Gtfo here with him being an elite QB. In the 2012 SEC championship game dude would literally stare down Amari Cooper or throw the ball away. 130 of his 160 passing yards went to Coop. Oh but Bama won so much bc of him. Not bc their all American o line blasting UGA for 350 rushing yards. Y’all are fricking delusional.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:47 pm to FireDanMullen
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Those Bama teams were loaded at every position
Not at wide receiver, and no sophisticated passing game plans.
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You put Aaron Murray or an actually talented College QB on that team and Bama doesn’t lose a game in 3 straight years.
If you are saying that any high school QB worth his salt should go to Alabama, then I agree.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:54 pm to FireDanMullen
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Oh but Bama won so much bc of him.
Literally never seen anyone butthurt over AJ.
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Not bc their all American o line blasting UGA for 350 rushing yards.
If your RB's are getting 7ypc, why wouldn't you stick with this? And when the time came, AJ made the play of the game. He did what was asked of him every day at Bama. No one ever called him an elite QB, but acting like he wasn't any good is stupid. Such a weird take.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 1:55 pm to BigOrangeLoyalist
You can add hooker to that list after next year. He would have surpassed 3,000 this year if he would have started the 1st 3 games.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:15 pm to VolMarine1371
Dameyune Craig-3,277-1997
Jarrett Stidham-3,158-2017
Jarrett Stidham-3,158-2017
Posted on 2/20/22 at 2:37 pm to FireDanMullen
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Maze was solid
So solid he went undrafted.
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And it probably had something to do with your QB throwing for 16 TDs. A whopping 1 a game.
He passed for 58 TDs in his last 27 games to just 10 interceptions.
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His success stemmed solely from the players around him.
Football is indeed a team sport.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 4:34 pm to RollTide1987
1998 Tim Couch- 4,275
1997 Tim Couch- 3,884
2007 Andre Woodson- 3,709
2000 Jared Lorenzen- 3,687
2006 Andre Woodson- 3,515
1999 Dusty Bonner- 3,266
2010 Mike Hartline- 3,178
1997 Tim Couch- 3,884
2007 Andre Woodson- 3,709
2000 Jared Lorenzen- 3,687
2006 Andre Woodson- 3,515
1999 Dusty Bonner- 3,266
2010 Mike Hartline- 3,178
Posted on 2/20/22 at 4:45 pm to jonnyanony
quote:I know, more games. But I find it surprising that Trask had more yards than anyone who played under Spurrier.
Shane Matthews - 1991, 1992
Danny Wuerffel - 1995, 1996
Rex Grossman - 2001, 2002
Chris Leak - 2004, 2006
Tim Tebow - 2007, 2008, 2009
Kyle Trask - 2019, 2020
Trask is our only 4000+ yard season with 4,283
I guess part of it was the way Spurrier liked to rotate QBs, and other is the perception of offenses now. The Fun-n-Gun WAS wide open, but now it's middle of the pack.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 4:55 pm to Scoob
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I know, more games. But I find it surprising that Trask had more yards than anyone who played under Spurrier.
Trask only played in 12 games in 2020 and still threw for over 4,000 yards. Danny Wuerffel and Rex Grossman played in 12-13 game seasons as well. The game has changed and offenses are more pass happy.
Posted on 2/20/22 at 4:56 pm to Scoob
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I know, more games. But I find it surprising that Trask had more yards than anyone who played under Spurrier.
I guess part of it was the way Spurrier liked to rotate QBs, and other is the perception of offenses now. The Fun-n-Gun WAS wide open, but now it's middle of the pack.
Wuerffel had Fred Taylor and Grossman had Ernest Graham in the backfield. Trask had no running game to help.
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