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How many donors would you lose without football?
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:10 am
The LSU locker room talk got me thinking
Would you still donate to the school if it cut football?
Would you still donate to the school if it cut football?
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:13 am to I Bleed Garnet
Allow me to make some phone calls and I'll get back to you with a number.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:15 am to I Bleed Garnet
Just guessing 50%
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:20 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Would you still donate to the school if it cut football?
Football was not a factor in me picking a school that I attended. And it's not a factor in why I donate to the school.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:25 am to I Bleed Garnet
The athletic department of each program would lose 1000s of donors to the tune of millions of dollars through their booster clubs ... with the exception of Kentucky.
I doubt it would affect the academic donor side of things very much.
I doubt it would affect the academic donor side of things very much.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:27 am to BoerneAg
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Football was not a factor in me picking a school that I attended. And it's not a factor in why I donate to the school.
Correct answer. I donate to the academic side of Auburn.
Texas A&M and Vanderbilt most likely have the largest endowments in the SEC. I'm pretty sure it's not because of football.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:30 am to Auburn80
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I donate to the academic side of Auburn.
Lordamercy, they sho' do need it.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:30 am to scrooster
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The athletic department of each program would lose 1000s of donors to the tune of millions of dollars through their booster clubs ... with the exception of Kentucky.
I doubt it would affect the academic donor side of things very much.
I agree
I’m just saying.
I wouldn’t donate if we cut football
But that’s just me
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:36 am to Auburn80
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Texas A&M ... largest endowments in the SEC.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:46 am to BoerneAg
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Football was not a factor in me picking a school that I attended.
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BoerneAg
Checks out
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:47 am to I Bleed Garnet
Is this a question of just my school cut football or every school cut football.
For the former, if guess about 25% in terms of dollars. For the later, I'd say negligible.
For the former, if guess about 25% in terms of dollars. For the later, I'd say negligible.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:48 am to JamalSanders
We are a basketball school so no affect.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:57 am to TheDeathValley
I believe you're an idiot if you choose to attend a school because of something as trivial as football.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:01 am to BoerneAg
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I believe you're an idiot if you choose to attend a school because of something as trivial as football.
I didn’t choose USC because of football
But post college the only thing I want from my school is to be good at football
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:05 am to I Bleed Garnet
College Athletics entire reason for being is one giant fundraising campaign. You saw so many schools build on campus stadiums in the 1920s because without a reason to sell tickets and inspire alumni to revisit their alma maters, many universities would have closed down due to lack of funding. And that’s pretty much why athletic programs continued to exist until about the mid 80s when schools successfully sued for their tv rights and since then it has exploded well beyond that initial scope into the different issues we have now; all of a sudden ticket sales and alumni donors don’t matter as much when tv contracts are fitting a lot of bills.
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:09 am to I Bleed Garnet
We still receive good support for basketball and baseball but obviously losing football donors would cripple us just like it would for every other school
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:09 am to BoerneAg
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I believe you're an idiot if you choose to attend a school because of something as trivial as football.
I agree, but my point was that no one chooses TAMu for football
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:19 am to I Bleed Garnet
Almost all of our baseball facilities improvements were donations made by former players, Will Clark, Raffey Palmeiro, Papelbon, and even Mitch Moreland. The actual stadium is a different story, but baseball makes money for us. So donations wouldn't be needed. it is profitable. Even if you do need to raise cash you could issue bonds and people would buy them and the revenue is their to pay the debt service. If you took football away I think we'd fill our Men's basketball games and that would make it profitable. women's is profitable We've been playing in the same gym forever. I know a couple of our big money donors would shift funds over to basketball in a heartbeat. Our profit margins are some of the best in the country. We don't lose money.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:39 am to BoerneAg
I think you’re foolish to attend a school based on just any one metric but football as an experience (not necessarily performance on the field) is certainly a reasonable factor as it reflects campus culture, social experience, and alumni involvement.
That being said, I think the answer to the OPs question will depends on the percentage of alumni who leave the drivable area of a campus upon graduating. So schools like Vandy, Stanford, Georgia Tech, etc probably aren’t going to be affected given their alumni tend to live too far to regularly attend games anyway and their giving tends to be more field, career, and charity write off related than pure love of school. But schools like UGA, Carolina, Auburn, Alabama, etc with alumni bases that are largely in state and who are more likely to return to campus each autumn, football is absolutely a factor in donating because the relationship is dependent upon the school continuing to provide social opportunities well after graduation
That being said, I think the answer to the OPs question will depends on the percentage of alumni who leave the drivable area of a campus upon graduating. So schools like Vandy, Stanford, Georgia Tech, etc probably aren’t going to be affected given their alumni tend to live too far to regularly attend games anyway and their giving tends to be more field, career, and charity write off related than pure love of school. But schools like UGA, Carolina, Auburn, Alabama, etc with alumni bases that are largely in state and who are more likely to return to campus each autumn, football is absolutely a factor in donating because the relationship is dependent upon the school continuing to provide social opportunities well after graduation
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:49 am to yatesdog38
I wouldn’t paint such a rosey past to Miss States finances. Up until 2011 the university was subsidizing the athletic department. It’s because of rights and licensing in the last 8 years your schools athletic department has been able to hold its own. Loose football and it would be in the toilet again.
YEAR TICKET SALES CONTRIBUTIONS RIGHTS / LICENSING STUDENT FEES SCHOOL FUNDS OTHER TOTAL REVENUES
2017 $15,782,114 $25,035,952 $54,843,236 $0 $0 $4,400,935 $100,062,237
2016 $16,024,676 $23,136,962 $52,583,747 $0 $0 $3,158,020 $94,903,405
2015 $14,646,395 $16,725,344 $40,267,330 $2,500,000 $0 $1,261,338 $75,400,407
2014 $12,461,331 $13,942,877 $28,305,623 $2,650,000 $0 $4,915,280 $62,275,111
2013 $11,442,447 $16,868,035 $27,583,713 $3,000,000 $0 $3,869,830 $62,764,025
2012 $11,330,142 $24,030,641 $27,141,526 $4,000,000 $0 $3,326,571 $69,828,880
2011 $10,358,803 $16,332,138 $25,774,171 $4,000,000 $819,653 $1,697,004 $58,981,769
2010 $10,776,417 $0 $18,546,479 $4,000,000 $748,570 $4,056,125 $38,127,591
2009 $7,600,163 $6,383,579 $13,226,039 $4,281,537 $747,300 $4,533,581 $36,772,199
2008 $8,750,189 $1,931,025 $11,751,787 $4,214,744 $496,117 $3,296,228 $30,440,090
2007 $6,880,413 $3,124,080 $10,947,869 $3,644,849 $495,763 $2,456,558 $27,549,532
2006 $6,674,951 $2,109,765 $10,364,443 $3,430,512 $500,938 $2,758,072 $25,838,681
2005 $6,416,035 $6,917,703 $7,798,728 $3,089,375 $499,210 $781,543 $25,502,5
Texas A&M wins this race every year in the SEC they brought in $211,000,000 in 2018. The closest was Alabama at $174,000,000 and then Georgia at $154,000,000 and Florida at $149,000,000 and Auburn and LSU and $147,000,000. Without football all athletic departments would be a fraction of what they are today. Football funds these departments the same at the high school level as well.
Even at Kentucky the football program brings in 10 times the amount as basketball. So football is king there as well.
YEAR TICKET SALES CONTRIBUTIONS RIGHTS / LICENSING STUDENT FEES SCHOOL FUNDS OTHER TOTAL REVENUES
2017 $15,782,114 $25,035,952 $54,843,236 $0 $0 $4,400,935 $100,062,237
2016 $16,024,676 $23,136,962 $52,583,747 $0 $0 $3,158,020 $94,903,405
2015 $14,646,395 $16,725,344 $40,267,330 $2,500,000 $0 $1,261,338 $75,400,407
2014 $12,461,331 $13,942,877 $28,305,623 $2,650,000 $0 $4,915,280 $62,275,111
2013 $11,442,447 $16,868,035 $27,583,713 $3,000,000 $0 $3,869,830 $62,764,025
2012 $11,330,142 $24,030,641 $27,141,526 $4,000,000 $0 $3,326,571 $69,828,880
2011 $10,358,803 $16,332,138 $25,774,171 $4,000,000 $819,653 $1,697,004 $58,981,769
2010 $10,776,417 $0 $18,546,479 $4,000,000 $748,570 $4,056,125 $38,127,591
2009 $7,600,163 $6,383,579 $13,226,039 $4,281,537 $747,300 $4,533,581 $36,772,199
2008 $8,750,189 $1,931,025 $11,751,787 $4,214,744 $496,117 $3,296,228 $30,440,090
2007 $6,880,413 $3,124,080 $10,947,869 $3,644,849 $495,763 $2,456,558 $27,549,532
2006 $6,674,951 $2,109,765 $10,364,443 $3,430,512 $500,938 $2,758,072 $25,838,681
2005 $6,416,035 $6,917,703 $7,798,728 $3,089,375 $499,210 $781,543 $25,502,5
Texas A&M wins this race every year in the SEC they brought in $211,000,000 in 2018. The closest was Alabama at $174,000,000 and then Georgia at $154,000,000 and Florida at $149,000,000 and Auburn and LSU and $147,000,000. Without football all athletic departments would be a fraction of what they are today. Football funds these departments the same at the high school level as well.
Even at Kentucky the football program brings in 10 times the amount as basketball. So football is king there as well.
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