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re: How good is Gene Chizik?

Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:08 pm to
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Out of all of these guys and chizik, who has done the most in the shortest period of time. Not just including hc position?


And returned to mediocrity the the fastest as well......
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:10 pm to
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And returned to mediocrity the the fastest as well.

2008 LSU is on the phone for you.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:10 pm to
He's obviously the greatest coach of all time. Thanks for asking, though.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:11 pm to
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And returned to mediocrity the the fastest as well...


So you are suggesting because this season after the nc he has returned to mediocrity? Were you an lsu fan in 08' by chance?
Posted by TT9
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:11 pm to
We're fixing to find out,not gunna hate on the guy like I use to,this is when we find out how good he is...
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:12 pm to
A better question would be how bad is Chizik. Time will prove he was a one-hit wonder thanks to one of the greatest college football players ever
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:20 pm to
I guess Charles Barkley was right.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:26 pm to
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So you are suggesting because this season after the nc he has returned to mediocrity? Were you an lsu fan in 08' by chance?





Exactly....

And I always read about how Auburn got lucky to win the games they win, but HOW MANY TIMES has LSU had to pull one out the arse since that bill goat y'all call a head coach has been there??

Remember, that was guy was on the hot seat until they beat U of Gump last season....

Chizik - 1 NC in 3 years at AU with Tubby's players
Miles - 1 NC in 7 years at LSU with Weeman's players...

Who's done more with "Les"...
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:28 pm to
We won't be able to compare numbers after 7 years because Chiz won't make it that long, but if you look at each coaches first 3 years at their respective school, it's all Miles bro
Don't be mad he teabagged Chiz twice now
Posted by thirdlawson
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:35 pm to
What was LSU's record in 2008 again?
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:37 pm to
You choose one year out of 8 now, very nice. Chiz has had two seasons that bad in three total
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:39 pm to
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You choose one year out of 8 now, very nice. Chiz has had two seasons that bad in three total


Answer me this please, what type or condition of a program did les take over at lsu
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:43 pm to
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You choose one year out of 8 now, very nice. Chiz has had two seasons that bad in three total




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Answer me this please, what type or condition of a program did les take over at lsu




Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
10059 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:44 pm to
I believe in Chizik and love him (no homo)

Seriously, I thought he was awesome when he was our DC and I think he has what it takes to return Auburn to greatness.
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:46 pm to
The only gripe I have with Chizik is...he gets blown out too much. However, he never loses to teams he should beat. I also like the fact that he doesn't hesitate to bring in new coaches if necessary. I think it will be interesting to see who he brings in as OC/DC. I suspect it will be an upgrade at DC and no drop off on OC. At the end of the day - its all about Talent. Chizik just lily whited the NCAA. I hope Les and Nick are as fortunate when those boys come knocking. I'm afraid they won't be.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:52 pm to
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The only gripe I have with Chizik is...he gets blown out too much. However, he never loses to teams he should beat. I also like the fact that he doesn't hesitate to bring in new coaches if necessary. I think it will be interesting to see who he brings in as OC/DC. I suspect it will be an upgrade at DC and no drop off on OC. At the end of the day - its all about Talent.


Agreed, I don't think chizik at this point should be held in the same regard as a few sec coaches. However at this point in his career he has done more in a shorter period of time than the rest as both a hc and non hc. Time will tell what his career in ten plus years looks like but he is moving just fine.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:53 pm to
2007: 3-9
2008: 2-10
2009: 8-5
2010: 14-0
2011: 7-5


I think he's semi-good
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:54 pm to
This thread has reenforced my viewpoint that your average so-called football fan has little to no actual grasp on even the most basic level of anything approaching understanding of football.

I also see that when it comes to Auburn, the ability to form a rational though free of mindless hate is beyond the ability of a good portion of fans. This is clearly shown by their willingness to to make fools of themselves in threads like this. There was a time when people actually cared about their reputation and knew the fastest way to ruin it was to show themselves to be trolls. What happened to change this?

I understand and even support critical discussion but cannot understand how so many are happy to show the world their abject stupidity by posting some of the complete horse shite like what I've seen on the past few pages.

Is Chizik a great coach? Good? Poor? Any logical person would say that thus far he's done far better than anyone ever expected but is now at a critical crossroads which will determine his legacy. I won't make myself sound stupid by making outlandish claims about what he will or will not do in the future. But if his past history at Auburn is any guide, I'd say chances are he'll do far better than many here expect.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:56 pm to
How often has he met or exceeded expectations as a head coach? Once, but he knocked it out of the park that one season. Every other year as a head coach he has failed to meet expectations. His one championship year will get him until the 2013 season to return to competing for the SECW championship. If Auburn isn't challenging for the title then I think he'll be history.
Posted by APIEE
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:02 pm to
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Poodlebrain


He met or exceeded expectations this year. And arguably in his first year at Auburn too. It's funny to me that everyone on here preseason predicts Auburn to win 5 or 6 games this season. But we go 7-5, yet now that is somehow used as evidence that CGC is an underachiever that can't succeed. I don't get it...Or actually I do - much of the criticism against Auburn and CGC is driven not by attempted objective analysis of our program and the job he has done, but rather by anger and an overarching belief that AU "got away with it" last season.

CGC might be a great coach, he might be terrible. But the argument that he has proven himself to be an underachiever is patently false, at least at AU. He quite frankly had chicken shite to work with and he has managed to make something beginning to resemble chicken salad.
This post was edited on 12/14/11 at 8:07 pm
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