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re: How exactly did Bert mess up Arkansas so badly?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:18 am to International_Aggie
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:18 am to International_Aggie
we started of the decade with back to back double digit win seasons. Then bert happened...
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:19 am to Arksulli
I dont think playing LSU after Bama hurt Arkansas too much.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:21 am to Slackaveli
Arkansas did have our number when I was in college. But it's hard to recover from having 3 different coaches in 3 different years.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:26 am to International_Aggie
trying to run a pro-style system while having a signifcant talent disadvantage to most team in conference.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:32 am to bogeypro
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Arkansas should have gone to the big 12. they simply won't recruit well in the SEC.
Depending on what recruiting site you use, we are currently ranked #11 on Rivals(5th SEC) and 17th on 247(8th SEC).
Not bad for a 2-10 team.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:38 am to AggieDub14
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L1eSU
How pitiful is that?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:43 am to International_Aggie
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Arkansas did have our number when I was in college.
And for the 80+ years before that
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:28 pm to MSHawg1
Bert clearly had trouble keeping good assistants and that affected both recruiting and coaching. The problem began in Wisconsin, because one reason he came to Arkansas was because he knew that we'd allocate more money for assistant salaries. And we did, but that clearly wasn't his problem with keeping good assistants around.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:46 pm to DinosaursAreReal
Jeff Long messed us up.
He shouldn't have fired Petrino, no other SEC school would have. Should have never put John L. Smith as interim.
Bielema was a huge name hire (not many schools steal away from programs like Whisky) but it wasn't the right fit style wise.
He shouldn't have fired Petrino, no other SEC school would have. Should have never put John L. Smith as interim.
Bielema was a huge name hire (not many schools steal away from programs like Whisky) but it wasn't the right fit style wise.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:48 pm to DinosaursAreReal
He tried to retool it in to a Big Ten bruising style team that just doesn’t work in the SEC. It’s going to take a complete overhaul to fix it.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:58 pm to NYCAuburn
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Arky has finished in the AP top 20 5 times since 1990
Much of that is probably due to our terrible bowl record. Nutt had us winning 8/9 games pretty often and we'd be around 20th but then go on to lose the bowl game.
Bielema had a great defense in 2014 and then a great offense in 2015 but couldn't put it all together at once. And then when Pittman left our OL recruiting fell apart and our defense never recovered from the loss of Spaight/Flowers/Philon. One practice earlier this fall we were down to EIGHT scholarship OL and couldn't even fill a full two-deep. I don't agree with people who say it's his style of offense because his offense did have some success. Defense failed us more often than the offense did.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 3:41 pm to SammyTiger
So your argument is you got bitch slapped by Bama and sulked for the rest of the season? We played Bama before we played you as well.
Face it, y'all were only 3-2 against the worst coach in the history of Arkansas football. You may talk about grown man football but you squat to piss.
Face it, y'all were only 3-2 against the worst coach in the history of Arkansas football. You may talk about grown man football but you squat to piss.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 3:54 pm to International_Aggie
He is the one guy Gus can call a bitxh
Posted on 12/12/18 at 4:10 pm to firewater706
It all comes down to two early departures and an injury.
When Alex Collins and Denver Kirkland left early, it forced Arkansas to flip Dan Skipper to left tackle, forced an underseasoned guy in at RT, and forced a true freshman with little FB experience to play at RG. We've since seen that guard develop into a All-SEC caliber lineman, but it was raw meat to wolves, especially since Skipper was ill prepared to protect a QB's blind side against the SEC's top pass rushers, as well.
Because of this, we were heavily penalized all along the OL, and Skipper would get our QBs blasted on a regular basis; this meant that Austin Allen in particular got the unholy hell beat out of him, and injuries visibly wore at his effectiveness as his two seasons as the starter wore on.
Collins departure forced the early play of Raleigh William III-- who played very well, but who should have shared his workload as a freshman and sophomore-- instead, he ended up with a severe neck injury that threw backfield development into chaos.
You take a team supposedly built around the premise of controlling the ball through the run game, and a physical offensive line, and take both away, and its going to be a severe problem.
When Alex Collins and Denver Kirkland left early, it forced Arkansas to flip Dan Skipper to left tackle, forced an underseasoned guy in at RT, and forced a true freshman with little FB experience to play at RG. We've since seen that guard develop into a All-SEC caliber lineman, but it was raw meat to wolves, especially since Skipper was ill prepared to protect a QB's blind side against the SEC's top pass rushers, as well.
Because of this, we were heavily penalized all along the OL, and Skipper would get our QBs blasted on a regular basis; this meant that Austin Allen in particular got the unholy hell beat out of him, and injuries visibly wore at his effectiveness as his two seasons as the starter wore on.
Collins departure forced the early play of Raleigh William III-- who played very well, but who should have shared his workload as a freshman and sophomore-- instead, he ended up with a severe neck injury that threw backfield development into chaos.
You take a team supposedly built around the premise of controlling the ball through the run game, and a physical offensive line, and take both away, and its going to be a severe problem.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 4:43 pm to bamaphan13
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trying to run a pro-style system while having a signifcant talent disadvantage to most team in conference.
This is simply a misconception and lazy excuse from fans of other schools. We always had top tier running backs, massive o lineman, and top tier TEs. Beat LSU 3/5 of times and should have beat Alabama(fumble on 1 yd line, and missed XP) but lost by one. Bert hiring Kurt Anderson as o line coach was the downfall of the offense. It had nothing to do with running a pro style system that was too advanced for the skill set.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 4:46 pm to DinosaursAreReal
He ate all the good players
Posted on 12/12/18 at 4:50 pm to kywildcatfanone
Barry Odom broke him
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