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How difficult is your permanent opponent schedule if Ross Dellenger is right? My rankings

Posted on 5/21/23 at 1:50 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 1:50 am
after tiering the teams.

I won't list the tiers because that will probably be whining over where your team is tiered rather than a focus on how tough you permanent opponents will be to play year in and year out.

Considerations for the tiers:

1. These are not based on where teams currently are, but rather what their ceiling and floor is and how long I believe they can sustain that ceiling.

2. I took into account how good your recruiting base is, how serious the fanbase is about football, and where you rank on the blueblood scale.


3. I gave points to each team based on their tier. Example Georgia and Alabama got ten points (the highest) along with several other teams.

So if you have Georgia or Alabama on your schedule you receive ten points. If you have both, then you'd get twenty points for those two teams.


Anyway, what I consider the toughest permanent schedules if Dellenger is right.

1. Alabama (Auburn, Tennessee, LSU)

2. two way tie
Florida (Georgia, Oklahoma, S. Carolina)
Texas A&M (LSU, Texas, Miss. State)

4. 3 way tie
LSU (Alabama, A&M, Ole Miss)
OU (Texas, Florida, Mizzou)
Texas (OU, A&M, Arkansas)

7. 2 way tie
S. Carolina (Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky)
Georgia (Florida, Auburn, Kentucky)

9. Auburn (Alabama, Georgia, Vandy)

10. Vandy (Tennessee, Auburn, Mizzou)

11. 3 way tie
Kentucky (MSU, S. Carolina, Georgia)
Ole Miss (MSU, LSU, Arkansas)
Arkansas. (Mizzou, Texas, Ole Miss)

14. MSU (Kentucky, Ole Miss, A&M)

15. two way tie
Mizzou (OU, Arkansas, Vandy)
Tennessee (Vandy, Alabama, S. Carolina)



This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 7:02 am
Posted by NawFoo
Member since Mar 2023
833 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:29 am to
Vandy is horrible so their schedule is the hardest, no?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 2:34 am to
bama, UGA and Vandy is the 9th toughest?

go.frick.yourself
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8981 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:56 am to
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bama, UGA and Vandy is the 9th toughest?

go.frick.yourself


This is not right now, just this year type of thing. It's looking at it over a decade or more. Vandy has almost always been a guaranteed win. At their very best, they win games by playing sound football and not making mistakes. Lowest tier and by themselves.

There are several teams equal to Georgia and Alabama in terms of ceiling.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 3:57 am
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:59 am to
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It's looking at it over a decade or more.



how do you know what the landscape of college football will look like in a decade? Nobody ever thought Nebraska, USC, FSU and Miami would have fallen to the depths they have. The present is all you can judge anything off of.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8981 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:16 am to
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how do you know what the landscape of college football will look like in a decade? Nobody ever thought Nebraska, USC, FSU and Miami would have fallen to the depths they have. The present is all you can judge anything off of.


I don't. Obviously, as with anything like this, you are making educated guesses. Maybe Georgia and Alabama go t crap and Vandy rises to be the king of the conference.

Stop being silly.

If I were judging by the present I'd want Tennessee off my schedule and Florida on it or Kentucky off my schedule and Auburn on it.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 4:18 am
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 4:18 am to
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Stop being silly.



That was my exact point to you.

You can only rank off of present day. Who knows who will be coaching who, how their NIL money is, how their recruiting has gone a decade from now?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8981 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 5:34 am to
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You can only rank off of present day. Who knows who will be coaching who, how their NIL money is, how their recruiting has gone a decade from now?


I'd say we have a pretty good idea based on recruiting bases and what the teams have done over the past three decades to say Auburn's peaks in the next two decades are likely to be better than Kentucky's peaks. And if Auburn gets the same kind of coaching and recruiting from their staff, they will do better than Kentucky. I would think that those things are in consideration and the powers that be aren't making schedules simply based on how the teams performed the last two seasons. If what you are saying is true, we can't even make educated guesses. Screw it. Let's just go round robin and forget the traditions.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 5:36 am
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:19 am to
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If what you are saying is true, we can't even make educated guesses.


Precisely what I am saying.

saban is bitching because of their three. They got UT who has been bad for a decade. They look to be turning things around. Auburn was playing for a NC a decade ago. We are a long way from that right now. UGA wasn't what they are now. UF won 4 games 10 years ago. College football is cyclical. It always has been. From my understanding......The SEC made these permanent rivals from their records over the last 5-10 years. Nobody has a clue what is going to happen the next 5-10 years.

Probation cripples a program. There is a new man running the show. Will he turn a blind eye like Emmert did? Only time will tell but it is just a matter of time before somebody gets popped with this NIL thing.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37454 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:24 am to
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2. two way tie Florida (Georgia, Oklahoma, S. Carolina) Texas A&M (LSU, Texas, Miss. State)


No. aTm has only one real game on there.

quote:

7. 2 way tie S. Carolina (Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky) Georgia (Florida, Auburn, Kentucky)


Both of these are much harder
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 6:25 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Alabama (Auburn, Tennessee, LSU)


quote:

Tennessee (Vandy, Georgia, S. Carolina)
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:46 am to
Dude are crazy.. you have Alabama playing Tennessee every year and Tennessee not playing Alabama?
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:52 am to
Someone has already posted the mismatch of schedules for TN

Anyway, where at in South Korea, I am heading there in March 2024 for a few days after Beijing and before finishing with three weeks in Japan.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8981 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:03 am to
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Dude are crazy..


Right. I've just got off the phone with a shrink referred to me. Hoping we can medicate, but I may have to be hospitalized.

Anyway, getting back into trying to make the internet be the way we would actually talk to each other in "real life".

It didn't change anything. Alabama and Georgia are equal in tier. But it was updated for you.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 7:04 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8981 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:05 am to
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Anyway, where at in South Korea


City called Cheonan. About an hour south of Seoul.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30056 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:21 am to
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Vandy is horrible so their schedule is the hardest, no?
that’s usually been the case and I guess the reason is this:


If you suck, and you’re the worst team in the land, you play everyone that is better than you. So vandy plays everyone ranked higher and there may have been years when they got unlucky with an Alabama and LSU from the west.

If Florida has a tough schedule and they are good, they cannot play Florida. Right?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41174 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:30 am to
I would rather have no permanent opponents than this.

Only Georgia left as a traditional opponent and if Georgia gets their way we will be changing that game to home and home, so pretty much all our oldest traditional rivalries will be gone. No Auburn, no LSU, no Tennessee.

The rivalries are what make college football great, and UF had more than most and we went from playing all of them every year down to only Georgia and FSU.

Combine this with the cultural shift that has occurred and I am pretty much done with college football and basketball anyway.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30851 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:30 am to
quote:

9. Auburn (Alabama, Georgia, Vandy)



Vandy is SO bad they drag Auburn's SOS to 9th despite having Georgia and Alabama?
Posted by Ezra Blu Boudroux
On the Broad
Member since Mar 2023
651 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:53 am to
Oklahoma vs Flarda makes no sense.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4965 posts
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:28 am to
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There are several teams equal to Georgia and Alabama in terms of ceiling.



Not really. UT will always be at best streaky. Same with Florida. Texas and OK are yet to be measured with an SEC schedule. A&M is a mess, probably for the long term. bama has been dominant for nearly two decades and UGA is well set up to do similarly. Even with Vandy, having to play two likely playoff teams every year is still more than the bulk of the SEC.
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