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re: How Damaging is the "Auburn" Killer/Manhunt to Auburn's National Brand?

Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:29 pm to
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Even though the April 27 tornado was used as a tool against us by a few teams no one should use those types of issues to land players.


Not to hijack, but I never heard this and am not sure how, care to expand
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:31 pm to
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Well said. Of course there will be the fringe(Tidefans, bamamag) who disputes this, but for the most part most dont believe there is any connection besides wrong place wrong time. There will be some negetive recruitment as well, but hopefully most will see through the BS


True, but that certainly works both ways. I was always amazed just perusing the bigger Auburn boards how Tuscaloosa was made out to be an extremely dangerous almost unlivable city. You would have thought Auburn fans were describing Fallujah instead of Tuscaloosa. That and the overblown drug/party school reputation that Alabama has among Auburn parents in the state. I was one of the few from my high school that went to Alabama instead of Auburn and the Auburn parents just assumed pretty much all the kids that went to Alabama were on hard drugs.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:34 pm to
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True, but that certainly works both ways. I was always amazed just perusing the bigger Auburn boards how Tuscaloosa was made out to be an extremely dangerous almost unlivable city. You would have thought Auburn fans were describing Fallujah instead of Tuscaloosa. That and the overblown drug/party school reputation that Alabama has among Auburn parents in the state. I was one of the few from my high school that went to Alabama instead of Auburn and the Auburn parents just assumed pretty much all the kids that went to Alabama were on hard drugs.


From someone who grew up outside of the state and not an AU fan, that persona of Ttown was in my head for quite some time. Beautiful school, shite hole town. HAving gone back as an adult on professional trips, i cant say i see much difference. Maybe i only see the crappy parts on my way to campus. Granted, there was about a 9 year window between visits.

And as someone who, unfortunately, found himself in Auburn drug scene at one time...i can def attest to the ease of it from Ttown as well.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 1:36 pm
Posted by rolltide06
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:35 pm to
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True, but that certainly works both ways. I was always amazed just perusing the bigger Auburn boards how Tuscaloosa was made out to be an extremely dangerous almost unlivable city. You would have thought Auburn fans were describing Fallujah instead of Tuscaloosa. That and the overblown drug/party school reputation that Alabama has among Auburn parents in the state. I was one of the few from my high school that went to Alabama instead of Auburn and the Auburn parents just assumed pretty much all the kids that went to Alabama were on hard drugs.


Tuscaloosa is a nice town that has it's bad sections just like any other city. Auburn has those places as well just on a smaller scale due to the size of the town. Tuscaloosa has come light years forward even from when I graduated 6 years ago, looks like a completely different place. It is only getting better also.
Posted by AUnite
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:36 pm to
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parents just assumed pretty much all the kids that went to Alabama were on hard drugs.

Did you grow up in Vestavia or Mountain Brook?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:36 pm to
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Not to hijack, but I never heard this and am not sure how, care to expand


One of my fraternity brothers, that is on the team, was told by a recruit that it was used to sway him.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:37 pm to
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was told by a recruit that it was used to sway him.


I sincerly hope it was not AU.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:38 pm to
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It's sad because it's your typical stereotypical "Young Black Youth" party where guns show up with liquor and someone starts shooting.


So your real complaint here is that the media isn't focused on all the parties featuring "Young Black Youth" bitterly clinging to their liquor and guns?

Interdasting.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:38 pm to
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Did you grow up in Vestavia or Mountain Brook?



I know lots of Briarwood people who think that.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:38 pm to
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was told by a recruit that it was used to sway him.


How so, though? T-Town is in Tornado Alley? Or the town was destroyed, will be a while until it is rebuilt? I am just not understanding how a tornado could be used as far as negetive recruitment
Posted by Swoopin
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:41 pm to
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How Damaging is the "Auburn" Killer/Manhunt to Auburn's National Brand?
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I first want to say this could happen to any school.


herp derp
Posted by AUnite
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:43 pm to
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I know lots of Briarwood people who think that

They're in close proximity. Maybe I should have just said "over the mountain area"
Posted by KillianRussell
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:43 pm to
I am calling bullshite on the claim the tornado was used as a recruiting tool.

ETA Link us a juicy article
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 1:44 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:44 pm to
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the tornado was used as a recruiting tool.


How does one go about selling this?
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:45 pm to
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From someone who grew up outside of the state and not an AU fan, that persona of Ttown was in my head for quite some time. Beautiful school, shite hole town. HAving gone back as an adult on professional trips, i cant say i see much difference. Maybe i only see the crappy parts on my way to campus. Granted, there was about a 9 year window between visits.

And as someone who, unfortunately, found himself in Auburn drug scene at one time...i can def attest to the ease of it from Ttown as well.


Just out of curiousity, did you come into town off the interstate and stick to campus and leave? The reason I ask is that the areas of the city between the interstate and campus are pretty basic much older more modest middle class neighborhoods that won't impress anyone. There is a large section of Tuscaloosa (along with Northport) that most visitors to Tuscaloosa never see. The area north of the River and north and east of McFarland Boulevard has many neighborhoods as nice as any you'll find in the entire state. The contrast from the most visible part of Tuscaloosa to the nicer areas of Tuscaloosa and Northport is as stark as going from Bessemer then over to Vestavia Hills and Mountain Brook. It's night and day really. The problem is most visitors have no reason to head out to those areas because they are away from campus.
Posted by piggidyphish
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:45 pm to
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True, but that certainly works both ways. I was always amazed just perusing the bigger Auburn boards how Tuscaloosa was made out to be an extremely dangerous almost unlivable city. You would have thought Auburn fans were describing Fallujah instead of Tuscaloosa. That and the overblown drug/party school reputation that Alabama has among Auburn parents in the state. I was one of the few from my high school that went to Alabama instead of Auburn and the Auburn parents just assumed pretty much all the kids that went to Alabama were on hard drugs.


Well you didn't say ITAT so that's a start.

In all seriousness though i see what you're saying, and don't disagree with you, it's just that's kind of your thing...bringing up ITAT whenever you talk about auburn fans.


But ya...yall got lots of blow in t town.
Posted by KillianRussell
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:47 pm to
I too was suprised how not nice Tuscaloosa is, I was expecting a much quainter place.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:48 pm to
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How so, though? T-Town is in Tornado Alley? Or the town was destroyed, will be a while until it is rebuilt? I am just not understanding how a tornado could be used as far as negetive recruitment

From my understanding it was more so used on his mom to make her feel that her son would be unsafe. The recruit didn't say specifically what team recruiter said it. What I took from the conversation is that the topic was brought up because they, the host and recruit, were talking about what things were said to them in recruitment to get them to not sign with bama. This particular recruit said to my source, "Weak a$$ biatch gone try to scare my mom talking bout because of tornadoes Tuscaloosa ain't a safe place to be"
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:50 pm to
Back to the original question, certainly some may try to use that against Auburn and I am sure some non-athletes may now decide to go somewhere else that is perceived safer (Samford, Furman, etc.)

Fortunately, we have a named suspect which is much better than a random killing without knowing who did it, because the perception is that it could happen again. It also helps that this was NOT an Auburn student or anyone associated with Auburn.

Finally, if a school did try to use that, it might backfire on them. If safety is an issue for the parents, then they may take the time to ask about crime rates on campus and in the city of other schools. Auburn is still (statistically) a very safe place.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/12/12 at 1:51 pm to
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I too was suprised how not nice Tuscaloosa is, I was expecting a much quainter place.

Once you get off campus, it is hit or miss. It is way better now than it was just 10 years ago.
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