re: How come the injunctions made on behalf of Bediako & Trinidad are honored…

Unfortunately, the federal court system in the Supreme Court don’t make such distinctions based upon popular fan reactions either good luck fricking SEC.

I can understand why some people at first blush simplistically equate the current Wright/Harris controversy with Trinidad’s deal. But it’s not hard to see the stark distinctions, if you’re willing to look.

First, Wright and Harris don’t dispute that they entered into professional contracts, which is against long-established, ironclad NCAA rules for any college player. They simply seek to obviate those rules, or claim some exemption that doesn’t exist within the rules.

Chambliss didn’t seek to abolish any such rule; he simply claimed that under the particular facts of his case the NCAA didn’t fairly apply its longstanding medical waiver rule to him. He alleged that the NCAA ignored evidence in his favor, and applied its rules to him in a wildly inconsistent manner.

Wright and Harris both played four years, and are now seeking to overturn the NCAA rule against returning from the pros, to give them a fifth year to play. Chambliss did not seek to overturn any rules; he just wanted the existing rules to be fairly applied to him so that he could play his fourth year.

After a full trial on the merits with exhibits and witnesses, the judge issued a very long and detailed finding that the NCAA did in fact deny Chambliss fair consideration of his case. That decision was affirmed, unanimously, by the Supreme Court (which includes Justices with no Ole Miss connection at all). The case is now final, and as a matter of law Chambliss is eligible.

Any lawyer will recognize the huge distinction between trying to overturn a rule (or law), as opposed to a factual dispute about whether a party is complying with the rule. Wright/Harris is the former; Chambliss is the latter. They’re very different.

The bigger distinction is that there is no SEC rule specifically addressing Chambliss’ situation. It was purely between him and the NCAA, and was merely a factual dispute.

However, the current controversy involves two specific SEC rules that Wright and Harris are seeking to overturn. One (that has been largely overlooked in this forum) is the limitation on intra-conference transfers that was unanimously adopted by SEC member schools several years ago. The rule strictly limits such transfers to the established portal window, which expired back in January.

Sure, they can argue that they have an excuse for not seeking to transfer then, because the NCAA didn’t adopt the 5-5 rule until June. But does anyone really want to open the door to unrestricted transfers at any time of the year for anyone who can come up with an excuse, however persuasive, for missing the portal window? That’s the issue here. Just think of the chaos, when someone on your roster decides in August to transfer to a conference rival because he can fashion some excuse for not having done so within the January portal. Play chess, not checkers.

The other specific SEC rule that Wright and Harris are seeking to overturn is the more recently adopted rule that mirrors the NCAA rule against pro players returning to college. Reasonable people can make arguments that the rule should be softened, but for now that’s the SEC rule. And it’s one that LSU voted in favor of just last month (even though it abstained from the follow-on rule about penalties).

Neither of those rules, or any other specific SEC rule, applies to Chambliss. Both of them apply to Wright and Harris.

And the SEC has never taken a position against a player seeking a fair hearing on his medical/hardship waiver, as Chambliss sought. But it took a strong position against Bediako’s attempt to return from the pros to play college ball. There’s nothing inconsistent whatsoever between its position in those matters and the present one.

Tl/dr: The Wright/Harris dealio is nowhere near comparable to Chambliss.

You know damned well those coonasses lack the intellectual capacity to read all that.

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Sankey should make the call one way or the other.

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He sorta did. He declined to intervene in Chambliss’s case, probably because the SEC has no interest in arguing against requiring the NCAA to give a fair hearing. At about the same time, he did intervene in the Bediako court case, with an affidavit strongly endorsing the prohibition against pros returning to college play.

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Hence there will literally be no difference between playing chambliss or Harris/wright

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Well except for the whole massive difference that everyone but LSU fans recognize.

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The case was appealed unsuccessfully.

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The injunction was appealed.



Not the case.




Functionally it’s the same but the ncaa still maintains he is ineligible. And ole miss is playing him.



Same as what will happen with Harris and wright

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The guy is older and will make more money playing football than Harris or wright.

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There is a specific number that correlates to the relevance of the above:

That number is zero. You’re desperately reaching for any possible argument to make.

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They have a hard time understanding that. He was declared ineligible by the NCAA, just for different reasons. So the NCAA should not allow Ole Miss to play in playoffs. Same result for players determined to be ineligible by NCAA

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No one except Ole Miss fans are happy that Chambliss got another year. Folks werent happy about Pavia getting another year. Is it unfair, to a degree I guess. There is still a huge difference because there is at least precedent for a medical redshirt and we can all agree that covid was a shitstorm. It still is not the same as whats going on now. Reasonable people can look at this and determine that the SEC caving on this issue would only lead to more bad things in the future.

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Folks werent happy about Pavia getting another year. Is it unfair, to a degree I guess. There is still a huge difference because there is at least precedent for a medical redshirt and we can all agree that covid was a shitstorm. It still is not the same as whats going on now. Reasonable people can look at this and determine that the SEC caving on this issue would only lead to more bad things in the future.

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Correct.

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The courts don’t view things with your sense of indignant nostalgia.

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Again reaching for arguments.

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It is a completely arbitrary false threshold that these guys “crossed” that is being unduly punished when another guy crossed a similar threshold on eligibility and is not receiving any punishment for it.

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You’re still greatly lacking logic and comprehension. That’s ok. We’re used to it by now.