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re: Hot take, Cal will retire at the end of the year.

Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:32 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:32 am to
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Why would Stevens leave the Celtics to come to UK? He has literally no connections to UK. He’s that perfect “CEO” type coach that works well in the NBA.

Some of y’all.



So Cal had ties to Kentucky previously?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:47 am to
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So Cal had ties to Kentucky previously?


Cal was coaching at a college program in the C-USA. It was a clear step up from the job he was at. That made sense. He didn't need a connection to Kentucky for that move to make sense.

You think Kentucky is a step up from the Celtics? It's not. There's no obvious reason for Brad Stevens to leave the Celtics at this point.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 8:51 am
Posted by coachcrisp
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:14 am to
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Never thought I would say it, but he looks old, ragged, and rough shape. The job is wearing on him, he is tired, saying stupid shite in the press and has lost it. The base is pissed (rightly so)...

Would not shock me he hangs it up and calls it a day. Bama fans, I’m going to say it, but Oats would be the man with Beard, Billy D and Brad Stevens.

Not a melt, this has been brewing for sometime since the 2015 slip up vs Wisky.

I'm not sure if Oats is ready for that big a stage. Some of his comments have been somewhat unfiltered, and he's had to walk them back a little. , plus I'd expect the Kentucky deity to want more than a year or two of big time results before they pull the trigger.
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:21 am to
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Why would Stevens leave the Celtics to come to UK? He has literally no connections to UK. He’s that perfect “CEO” type coach that works well in the NBA.

Your only good point is that he's already with a really good NBA franchise.

1. Nobody needs connections to UK to go there. It's one of the best jobs in the country, period.
2. Stevens is the kind of coach that works well anywhere. Because he's a fantastic coach.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:37 am to
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Your only good point is that he's already with a really good NBA franchise.

1. Nobody needs connections to UK to go there. It's one of the best jobs in the country, period.
2. Stevens is the kind of coach that works well anywhere. Because he's a fantastic coach.


Pointing out that he doesn’t have UK connections is a valid part of that point. Does he have to have connections to come to UK? No. I didn’t say that. Cal didn't have a connection to UK, but he was taking a large step up from his previous job to come to UK so that transition made sense.

What I am pointing out is that there’s no justifiable reason for Brad Stevens to leave the Celtics for Kentucky because there is no connection there. It would make no sense for him to leave a successful NBA job unless he had some kind of ulterior motive or connection to UK.

This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:42 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:48 am to
Something else worth pointing out is he just signed a contract extension with the Celtics. They don't have any intention on running him out of town. He also expressed that he doesn't really have any desire to jump from job to job.

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It could be some time before Stevens is asked about rejoining the college ranks. Stevens signed a contract extension with Boston, the team announced on Wednesday. Stevens, 43, had agreed to the deal several weeks ago, sources told SI, a contract that will keep him on a job he has held since 2013 for the foreseeable future.

“I’ll let you guess on the years,” Stevens told reporters on Thursday. “One of the things that’s been really important to [Stevens wife] Tracy and I all the way through was if we were going to do this coaching thing to try our best to make it as stable as possible without moving too much. We’ve been incredibly blessed when you consider 13 years at Butler and finishing up a seventh with the Celtics. I think in coaching you expect it to end at some point by being let go or being fired. It’s kind of the nature of the business. So I’ve never really focused on that. I’ve tried to focus on doing the job as well as I can.


SI article on Stevens extension


This is like Saban to Texas at this point.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:53 am to
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You think Kentucky is a step up from the Celtics? It's not. There's no obvious reason for Brad Stevens to leave the Celtics at this point.


I think Kentucky is a college team, and the Celtics are a pro team.

He was quite successful as a college coach, and is from Indiana which isn't that far away.
He could easily want to go back to the college experience if he wanted, even with the success of the NBA he is having. Both have their pros and cons.
To think it's not a name to call should the job come open to gauge interest. Pitino was being successful with the Knicks, had no ties to Kentucky, but he came. I don't even understand how you think it wouldn't be worth a call.
Contracts are broken daily in sports, they are meaningless pieces of paper ultimately, as long as everyone agrees on the money side of it.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:55 am
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:55 am to
I doubt it. Your observations are correct but his ego will not let him walk away until he goes to a Final Four or wins it all. He wants to show all the doubters and naysayers wrong. Unfortunately unless he gets an "offensive coordinator" that won't happen. He is stuck in a 90's time warp and has not adjusted to the game. This year what really killed him was the point guard. If he had Ashton Hagans out there we would be 9-4 or better not 4-9. Not good for UK but we would have a win over U ofL and be looking at an NCAA bid. We won't be elite again until we have 3 guys on the floor that can hit threes and two bigs that rebound/block shots. Our PG has to be able to penetrate and finish or dish. Askew will never get there on this level. Too slow.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:00 am to
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I think Kentucky is a college team, and the Celtics are a pro team.

He was quite successful as a college coach, and is from Indiana which isn't that far away.
He could easily want to go back to the college experience if he wanted, even with the success of the NBA he is having. Both have their pros and cons.
To think it's not a name to call should the job come open to gauge interest. Pitino was being successful with the Knicks, had no ties to Kentucky, but he came. I don't even understand how you think it wouldn't be worth a call.
Contracts are broken daily in sports, they are meaningless pieces of paper ultimately, as long as everyone agrees on the money side of it.


You're making the assumption he has any desire to return to college. He's given no indication of that. He didn't go when Indiana called either and that would've made more sense given his connections to Indiana.

I don't understand how you think it would be worth a call.

Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:03 am to
My two cents. A call is basically free. All he can say is no. Probably will but you check that box as an AD in case someone asks later did you ask X, Y & Z .

But Cal won't be leaving so this is an exercise. Barnhart can't force him out and Cal won't go out a loser.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:07 am to
Fine. You aren't interested in considering him, that's fine with me. I would have him on the list, and would be my first call.

I would rather him tell me no than not to ask. I don't understand why you are wanting to argue that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:09 am to
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If he had Ashton Hagans out there we would be 9-4 or better not 4-9.


Yeah, Askew is growing, but he's slow for college and struggles to handle the ball well and it leads to a lot of turnovers. We really are just missing one good floor leader to have an entirely different outlook on the season.

I still say that Kenny Payne being gone is hurting us a lot.
Posted by mls4bama
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:32 am to
NO UK and fans will run him off !!!
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 10:48 am to
And when you start getting declined left and right by “calling” unobtainable coaches?

We’ve seen coaching searches go to shite quick when that happens.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:20 am to
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And when you start getting declined left and right by “calling” unobtainable coaches?


So we are dying on this hill. You don't know they are unattainable till you ask, at least to me. to each his own I guess.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:22 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:31 am to
Just pointing out the ignorance of chasing Brad Stevens. Several fans are already calling for it. Can’t wait to shoot our load over that so we can get another Gillispie-Light.
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:44 am to
Auburn broke his arse.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:48 am to
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ignorance of chasing Brad Stevens.


It's not ignorance. UT coaching searches are ignorance.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:51 am to
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More like Chris Beard


Dude would be a force at UK. I hope they don't hire him.

Tony Bennett at UK is the one who would really, really scare me. I don't think their fans would want him because of the perception of his style, but his coaching with Kentucky's talent would legitimately be horrifying for the rest of the conference.

His recruiting would be better than people think at UK because of what guys like Malcolm Brogdon, DeAndre Hunter, Kyle Guy, and (to a lesser extent because he only had him for a year) Klay Thompson have gone on to do in the NBA.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:57 am
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:55 am to
LINK


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The 10-year deal worth $86 million pays Calipari $8 million per year for each of the next two seasons, $8.5 million per year from July 2021 to June 2025, and $9 million per year from July 2025 to June 2029. The contract was released by UK on Thursday afternoon.



There is no way in hell he is walking away from that and UK isn't firing him because of one bad year.

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