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re: Heupel and Bowl Cuts first two seasons very comparable yet polar opposites
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:55 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:55 pm to Dawgfanman
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He meant top 10 in the SEC..:

Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:11 pm to General4Heisman
Huepel took over a team that had 31 transfers that went 3-7 year prior.
Smart took over a UGA team that was a top 25. team year prior that won 9 games.
Let’s compare teams prior to both coach arriving.
UT- 2016,2017,2018,2019, 2020
HC- Jones(2016,2017),Pruitt
Record - 29-29
10 win seasons - 0
Division titles - 0
UGA- 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015
HC- Richt
Record - 49-17
10 win seasons- 3
Division Titles - 2
Heupel stepped into a far difficult situation than Kirby did. Kirby had a team already loaded with talent when he took over. Heupel years 1 and 2 are more impressive than what Kirby had done considering the situations they they both faced.
Smart took over a UGA team that was a top 25. team year prior that won 9 games.
Let’s compare teams prior to both coach arriving.
UT- 2016,2017,2018,2019, 2020
HC- Jones(2016,2017),Pruitt
Record - 29-29
10 win seasons - 0
Division titles - 0
UGA- 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015
HC- Richt
Record - 49-17
10 win seasons- 3
Division Titles - 2
Heupel stepped into a far difficult situation than Kirby did. Kirby had a team already loaded with talent when he took over. Heupel years 1 and 2 are more impressive than what Kirby had done considering the situations they they both faced.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:14 pm to WG_Dawg
Huepel took over a team that had 31 transfers that went 3-7 year prior.
Smart took over a UGA team that was a top 25. team year prior that won 9 games.
Let’s compare teams prior to both coach arriving.
UT- 2016,2017,2018,2019, 2020
HC- Jones(2016,2017),Pruitt
Record - 29-29
10 win seasons - 0
Division titles - 0
UGA- 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015
HC- Richt
Record - 49-17
10 win seasons- 3
Division Titles - 2
Kirby had it far easier than Huepel at UGA than what Huepel had taken over. It’s no comparison. Kirby didn’t have to rebuild anything when he took over UGA.
Smart took over a UGA team that was a top 25. team year prior that won 9 games.
Let’s compare teams prior to both coach arriving.
UT- 2016,2017,2018,2019, 2020
HC- Jones(2016,2017),Pruitt
Record - 29-29
10 win seasons - 0
Division titles - 0
UGA- 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015
HC- Richt
Record - 49-17
10 win seasons- 3
Division Titles - 2
Kirby had it far easier than Huepel at UGA than what Huepel had taken over. It’s no comparison. Kirby didn’t have to rebuild anything when he took over UGA.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:16 pm to General4Heisman
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Bowl Cuts
That made me laugh.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:18 pm to Dawgfanman
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He meant top 10 in the SEC East
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:22 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:The Devil's in the details...
He meant top 10 in the SEC
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:22 pm to VolNavy98
UGA was better than Tennessee for Kirby's first year (compared to heupel). No doubt.
But everyone looks at Richt's win total in 2015 without looking at the wins themselves.
9-6 win over Missouri at home (Missouri was 5-7)
20-13 win @ Auburn (Auburn was 7-6)
Overtime win vs GA Southern at home 23-17 (GA Southern was 9-4 with a home loss to 6-7 GA State)
13-7 win @ Georgia Tech (tech with a 3-9 record).
24-17 bowl win over Penn St (7-6 record and still reeling from Sandusky)
But everyone looks at Richt's win total in 2015 without looking at the wins themselves.
9-6 win over Missouri at home (Missouri was 5-7)
20-13 win @ Auburn (Auburn was 7-6)
Overtime win vs GA Southern at home 23-17 (GA Southern was 9-4 with a home loss to 6-7 GA State)
13-7 win @ Georgia Tech (tech with a 3-9 record).
24-17 bowl win over Penn St (7-6 record and still reeling from Sandusky)
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:30 pm to meansonny
My point was that Kirby took over a team already loaded with talent. They jsut needed a new change in coaching. Huepel took over a team that didn’t have anyone drafted year before Huepel got there. Kirby situation was far better than any new coach.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:31 pm to General4Heisman
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Tennessee is on a huge trajectory up
How can you be on a huge trajectory up right after a loss?
A mud stomping loss?
A "We have never played football before" loss?
Yor team just fell off the table.
Question. If he is right and Tennessee does not make the playoffs will you still bump this bookmarked thread?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:32 pm to General4Heisman
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Heupel is on the same trajectory until proven otherwise.
He’d have to win the SEC championship, win a Semi-Final, and go to the national championship this season to equal “same trajectory.”
I seriously cannot even fathom Tennessee fans delusions, they are making up definitions to words now. I’ve never seen a fanbase prematurely anoint themselves champions after going 8-1. You’ve had a good season, you may get into the playoff, until then you have accomplished NOTHING. This is insane listening to these ppl talk about their program like they’ve already won championships. I’ve never seen anything like it. With every new post TN fans remind us they haven’t seen greatness in 25 years. Unreal.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:34 pm to General4Heisman
Heupel's fat and your mommy dresses you funny.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:35 pm to VolNavy98
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Huepel took over a team that had 31 transfers that went 3-7 year prior.
Smart took over a UGA team that was a top 25. team year prior that won 9 games.
And 3-4 years down the road y'all will be crying about how you still don't have as much talent.
Y'all trolled nonstop before and after the game, and now you think you will get serious conversation. You made your bed. Enjoy it.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:37 pm to JCdawg
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Dear OnlyFans for incest....
Why would a UT fan post this on a Bama board?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:42 pm to Deacon Reds
The state of Georgia is VASTLY SUPERIOR to the state of Tennessee in quantity and quality of high school football talent and Bammer is closer to Memphis (Tennessee's best area for HS football talent) and recruits it better than Tennessee...
Tenner will likely NEVER have a top 10 recruiting class based off of those 2 facts (lack of overall HS talent in Tennessee and Bammer recruits Memphis better than Tennessee).
Tenner will likely NEVER have a top 10 recruiting class based off of those 2 facts (lack of overall HS talent in Tennessee and Bammer recruits Memphis better than Tennessee).
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:52 pm to General4Heisman
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We are currently top 10
Wrong.
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got a lot of big timers in our crystal ball.
List em
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:55 pm to VolNavy98
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My point was that Kirby took over a team already loaded with talent. They jsut needed a new change in coaching. Huepel took over a team that didn’t have anyone drafted year before Huepel got there. Kirby situation was far better than any new coach
The team wasn't loaded with talent.
We had 1 player drafted in 2016 (and he was a junior).
The only good senior was Maurice Smith (a grad transfer who came over with Kirby to play nickel defense).
The 2014 recruiting class for Richt was very good. #8 in the country but yielded a very good senior class with Nick Chubb, Lorenzo Carter, Sony Michel, and Lamont Gaillard.
The 2015 class wasn't as good but had studs like Roquan Smith, Terry Godwin, and D'Andre Walker.
From that point on, it was Kirby's recruiting that brought up our QBs and offensive/defensive lines.
I just don't see tennessee stocking up on kids rated .9400+ in the composite.
Kirby signed 15 of them in the 2022 class. We already have 10 committed for 2023.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:00 pm to VolNavy98
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Heupel stepped into a far difficult situation than Kirby did.
There is less truth in this than you are willing to admit
Posted on 11/9/22 at 2:02 pm to VolNavy98
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My point was that Kirby took over a team already loaded with talent.
if it was so talented why did htey lose 5 games in 2016, including to vanderbilt? Only beat nichols state by 2?
IF you're only speaking relatively then ok they had more talent than 2021 Tenensee, probably. But it's not like taht 2016 roster resembled anything close to the current ones. We had no one to play LT so had to grab a transfer from friggin rhode island (who sucked badly, btw). at QB we had virginia transfer greyson lambert, who was ultimatley benched for a true freshman. Nick chubb to start the season was only 10 months removed from his leg being treated like a rubiks cube. Only 1 WR on that team is currently playing in the NFL. Half the guys on defense wouldn't come close to starting compared to our last 3 or 4 rosters.
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