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re: Herbstreit: People are failing to grasp this is a new era

Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:22 am to
Posted by panterica
Member since Jun 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:22 am to
When comparing W's and L's among teams, strength of schedule should be EVERYTHING.
Posted by 3rdRowTrashTalker
Drunk between Kirby and the Nat
Member since Aug 2011
1841 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:45 am to
The "new" concept of only caring about what was done on the field is refreshing.

That said, they slightly missed it this week.

Given the "eye test" I would put Bama ahead of Florida. However, given "on the field" you'd have to put Florida above. It's like they mixed a little of eye test and on the field performance this week. Only what's been done on the field should matter.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:01 am to
Love how all the Bama fans are justifying this shite when they were just as shocked by it as everyone else. They were not expecting to be in the top four because they knew their team didn't deserve it. The hope was to beat LSU and then make a jump. Either way, that shite is not happening this year. Bama will lose to LSU. When that happens they probably won't fall out of the top 10. But that's cool. Can't wait until they get beat by Memphis in the Chicken Bowl.
Posted by Chris Warner
Perdido Bay
Member since Jan 2009
5575 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:05 am to
Bama bias
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23289 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Well after that non deserving 2011 Alabama team made the championship, people HAD to have something other than the BCS.


Yeah well the committee portiok of the BCS is what failed in that scenario. The polls were the problem in manipulating the results. The conputers had Oklahoma St. easily in unless people started ranking them like 3 spots below Alabama. That was the most rediculous manipulatiok of the system in the BCS era imo.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47372 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:31 am to
quote:

I vehemently disagree with the idea that Alabama has proven themselves better than all but 3 teams in the country.


With whom are you disagreeing? Because no one asserted this. Ranking them fourth does not constitute proof. None of this can be proven.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:38 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104604 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:43 am to
If the committee truly gives weight to what the team was ranked when you played them, they should blow the whole comittee up. That is the dumbest thing I have heard
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:46 am to
I just hope it doesn't get to be like the basketball selection committee and start getting all PC. They don't need to start feeling sorry for certain conferences or start trying to "balance" things out regionally or give extra credit to small schools to "give them a shot."
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4980 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:52 am to
The problem is the games that are played on the field should carry more weight. Bama's toughest game of the year at home ended as a lose. They should be punished for that. If we are going to go by the eye test then lets just not play the games. Just chalk it the whole season. Its proven time and time again humans cant be objective when ranking teams. Facts are if Florida and Bama switched resumes than Bama would still be at 4. There is a clear bias. It really doesn't bother me but I'd like them to at least be honest about it.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36239 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:58 am to
I get that I'm just failing to understand how Ohio state is 3
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4980 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:58 am to
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Still doesn't explain Bama's ranking or Florida's. At this point in the season it doesn't really matter, but it makes people question the decision-making of this committee and, IMO, rightfully so.


Sure it does. Bama beat 2 previously undefeated top 10 teams. UF has not. Doesn't matter that you played the same UGA (without Chubb of course) because UGA was unranked when you played.

But for all the teeth nashing and bitching I think UF gets in if they win out and it may be over Bama if Bama doesn't get in SECCG. But, not because you beat UGA . It's because you beat FSU and OM again (OM will have to be ranked higher because the won out.) AND won a Conference Championship. I think the Committee is weighting CC's more than a regular game against a quality opponent. More than they should in my opinion.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 8:06 am
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
4994 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:50 am to
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a 2 loss SEC West team beats out a 1 loss Ohio State or Notre Dame for the fourth playoff spot.

And that could happen. LSU beat OSU in 2008 and LSU had 2 losses. Neither team belonged in that game. But that was the BCS and it was not nearly as good as the committee. When it's all said and done, I think Michigan State beats Ohio State and wins the B1G title. LSU/Florida/Bama winner will get the SEC bid. Oklahoma/OK St/Baylor/TCU winner gets the Big 12 bid and Clemson/FSU for the ACC. Pac 12 cannibalized one another too much this year.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15196 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:53 am to
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I think Michigan State beats Ohio State and wins the B1G title. LSU/Florida/Bama winner will get the SEC bid. Oklahoma/OK St/Baylor/TCU winner gets the Big 12 bid and Clemson/FSU for the ACC. Pac 12 cannibalized one another too much this year.


You should apply at ESPN to be an analyst. You REALLY broke it down there, champ.

Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36239 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:54 am to
If ND beats Pitt and Stanford they will get a spot for sure.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61397 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:54 am to
quote:

all they want to talk about is where Alabama is ranked.


Its funny because it ridiculous.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:56 am to
I think the playoff committee will pick the 4 teams they think are the best. Then the 1 seed will play the 4 seed and the 2 seed will play the 3 seed.

The winners of those 2 games will play each other imo.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15196 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:59 am to
Go on...

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see Bama get a friggin bye in the Semifinals.
Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
4489 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:59 am to
We've all seen what football "committees" can predict and pick.

Um, prior to the season, the "knowing" SEC media went with Auburn for the win.

I rest my case.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26444 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:01 am to
I think what people are failing to realize is that the top 16 or so teams are all really close at this point in part because the data points are FAR from complete. The committee said as much. People are splitting hairs and so is the committee because for some reason they feel the need to start the playoff ranking earlier than they should and people need to relax - as more data comes in it will be easier to distinguish between teams. They will move teams around a lot and there probably isn't much difference in being ranked #1 and being ranked #15 at this point.
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