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re: Heisman Trophy - Auburn’s Last Brag?

Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:14 pm to
No, it will be another 50 years before Auburn wins another title. I have always said that the Camback kept the SEC streak alive and made the trauma of 21-0 possible.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51562 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Nick Fairley did. Without the fumble and recovery he caused and made Auburn loses that game.

I don’t think Fairley caused that fumble (Ingram.) Was there another one that I have forgotten about?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:17 pm to
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I don’t think Fairley caused that fumble (Ingram.) Was there another one that I have forgotten about?



He blew up McElroy at the end of the 1st half. We had driven to the Auburn 8 and Fairley destroyed the interior of our line and murdered McElroy as he was dropping back and forced a fumble with 54 seconds left in the half. It would have been 27-0 or 31-0 at the half if not for that.

We had 7 first half drives for 390 yards - 3 ended in TDs, 1 ended in a FG and 2 ended in fumbles inside the Auburn 20. Gag.

I mean, that whole Auburn season truly was a God thing. I don't even know what else to say. SMH.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:24 pm to
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errick Henry Rush Yards Per Game : #2 (McCaffrey #3) Total Rush Yards : #1 (McCaffrey #2) Rushing TDs : #1 (McCaffrey #91) Yards From Scrimmage Per Game : #8 (McCaffrey #1) Total TDs from Scrimmage : #1 (McCaffrey #41) Total TDs : #1 (McCaffrey #30) The only category McCaffrey was better than Henry is was total yards from scrimmage per game and "all purpose yards" which is a silly thing to tack on anyway because you get an automatic 15 yards every time you return a kick. Henry certainly wasn't coming in 7th or 8th amongst running backs in Rush Yards, TD runs, Rush Yards Per game, etc like Sullivan was with QBs.


Conveniently left off his receiving and return yards. I understand how it works.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51562 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:24 pm to
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It would have been 27-0 or 31-0 at the half if not for that.

I looked it up.
The Ingram fumble was first. The Fairley fumble occurred after we already had 7 points on the board but yes,at the end of tbe half. Thanks for the reminder of that fumble.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:27 pm to
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The Ingram fumble was first. The Fairley fumble occurred after we already had 7 points on the board but yes,at the end of tbe half. Thanks for the reminder of that fumble.



LOL yes. And you are right you had 7 at the break. The Ingram play was obviously huge, but the Fairley fumble saved the game. IF we score a TD there it is 31-7 at halftime, and I don't know, that just feels a whole lot bigger.

I still vividly remember my dad saying at halftime that if Auburn came out and scored on their first drive we were in trouble. Sure enough, bang, 1 minute TD drive, and it's totally a football game against at 24-14.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:28 pm to
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Conveniently left off his receiving and return yards.


You do understand what "Yards From Scrimmage" means, right? Hint, it includes receiving yards.

And yea, lumping return yards into rush and receiving yards is silly. A kick returner gets 10-15 free yards on every return. Equating that to 10-15 yards from a running back is silly.

Hell, McCaffery wasn't even in the Top 50 nationally in punt return yards per return. Nor was he in the Top 50 in Punt or Kickoff Return TDs. He averaged 8.67 yards per punt return and had 1 punt return TD. Cam Sutton at Tennessee averaged 18.68 with 2 TDs. Cyrus Jones averaged 12.62 yards per return and had 4 TDs.

So, again, going back to your original point - if Ingram and Henry are "tainted", then so is Sullivan. Case closed. You can't even argue it, your only argument is to go back and argue more about Henry/Ingram being invalid.

This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 6:33 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:30 pm to
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We had 7 first half drives for 390 yards - 3 ended in TDs, 1 ended in a FG and 2 ended in fumbles inside the Auburn 20.

Trent dropped an wide open toss to him in the end zone that ultimately led to the Bama FG.
I remember the McElroy fumble, the ball laid on the ground a seeming eternity while some of the Bama Online stood by it not realizing the ball was on the ground.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51562 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:32 pm to
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The Ingram play was obviously huge, but the Fairley fumble saved the game.

You’re nuts. There was an open field ahead and Bama was about to be up 28-0 if not for Carter’s hustle effort.

The subsequent Fairley fumble did nothing but foretell Bama’s demise.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:34 pm to
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You’re nuts. There was an open field ahead and Bama was about to be up 28-0 if not for Carter’s hustle effort.

The subsequent Fairley fumble did nothing but foretell Bama’s demise.



I mean, I guess they really meant the same thing long term = they stopped us from being us 31-7 at the half.

That ball rolling down the sideline into the endzone. LOL, you couldn't do that shite if you tried.

God thing for sure.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23070 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:37 pm to
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Nick Fairley did. Without the fumble and recovery he caused and made Auburn loses that game.


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I don’t think Fairley caused that fumble (Ingram.) Was there another one that I have forgotten about?


Yes. Fairly caused a fumble and recovered it when Alabama was on around the 7 yard line.

It was a series or 2 after the Ingram Fumble.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51562 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:39 pm to
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That ball rolling down the sideline into the endzone. LOL, you couldn't do that shite if you tried.

t’was amazing. I actually didn’t think anything of it then because we were still scoreless and losing big, but, in hindsight, that ball was definitely a ball of destiny.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:41 pm to
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t’was amazing. I actually didn’t think anything of it then because we were still scoreless and losing big, but, in hindsight, that ball was definitely a ball of destiny.



That game really was the perfect microcosm of those 2 teams that season.

Alabama looked flashy and talented but just somehow found a way to bumble around and not respond when punched in the mouth. Auburn looks awful for a half, didn't flinch for a second and came out and made plays to win a game that seemed unwinnable.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:47 pm to
No, it shows the guy could do everything. Even those who live by stats understood that, but of course it was a popularity contest.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:48 pm to
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No, it shows the guy could do everything


He could catch a punt and get the 10 yards that everyone else in America got. That's incredible, should definitely tack that on the rushing totals.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:54 pm to
Sure, everyone, right. Ok, if you say so. wow.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Do you think 2010 Auburn would still be undefeated going into the IB without Cam?


Checking back in, has this been answered without bama glasses?
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14216 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:15 pm to
None of Bama's 3 (assuming Tua wins) will be the ones brought up when people are comparing how good someone is. Ingram and Henry are prime examples of why it shouldn't be an every year award (won it simply because they were on a top team and no one stood out that year). Tua might be worth bragging but has possibly played the weakest passing defensive schedule in the history of the sec.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 7:16 pm
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 7:18 pm to
I just wanted to say it’s great to see you make it to the thread we were worried about you
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10761 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 8:33 pm to
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This guy will own your minds until the ends of eternity.


Amazing how a thug you rented for 3 months is the centerpiece of Auburn Football.
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