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re: Has Derrick Henry's NFL career altered your opinion of his collegiate performance?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:32 pm to jonnyanony
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:32 pm to jonnyanony
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many people on this forum refusing to rank him in the elite tier of SEC running backs
This didn't happen
Literally multiple people have said in this very thread.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:34 pm to NickPapageorgio
The truth is no one will analyze his college career when he retired as a top 3 NFL RB.
He just had his best season statistically and he’s 30.
He’s probably going to rush for over 1k yards for the next three years if he stays healthy and he has for the most part in his career.
Let’s say he calls it quits at 34-35 which is likely.
He will very likely finish with 15k+ rushing yards and 130+ TDs. This EASILY puts him as a top 3 RB all time with his YPC being higher than anyone over 10k yards in NFL history.
He just had his best season statistically and he’s 30.
He’s probably going to rush for over 1k yards for the next three years if he stays healthy and he has for the most part in his career.
Let’s say he calls it quits at 34-35 which is likely.
He will very likely finish with 15k+ rushing yards and 130+ TDs. This EASILY puts him as a top 3 RB all time with his YPC being higher than anyone over 10k yards in NFL history.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:38 pm to RollTide1987
Bo Jackson is the greatest athlete of all time. DH is a damn good running back.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:41 pm to RollTide1987
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has your perspective on his career at Alabama been altered any?
Why does this bother you so much?
Are you mad Lane passed the ball too much against tOSU? Can't admitt our team was outcoached?
......I remember some saying Saban was gonna ruin him with so many carries in his last year.......were you one of them?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:42 pm to collegefootballisbroken
If's and butt's.
His SEC career is finished. Why are we talking about NFL?
He will never top Bo and he will destroy Bos stats in the NFL.
Emmitt didn't become best ever in the SEC as he piled up NFL stats. Nor will Henry.
His SEC career is finished. Why are we talking about NFL?
He will never top Bo and he will destroy Bos stats in the NFL.
Emmitt didn't become best ever in the SEC as he piled up NFL stats. Nor will Henry.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:44 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Literally multiple people have said in this very thread.
Quote one, liar.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:44 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Literally multiple people have said in this very thread.
No, it appears they're not willing to rank him best or top three in the history of a conference with incredible running backs.
That's not the same thing
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:52 pm to ClaimToFame
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How many yards did Walker have against the 3 non Power teams?
Oh, that's right. Georgia didn't play any.
Herschel Walker played in 36 games at UGA. You know how many of those teams had a winning record? 15. That's 21 games against teams with losing records.
Derrick Henry played against 27 FBS teams in 2014/15. How many had a winning record? 24. Herschel may have played more name teams but the majority were awful. Herschel played against more than twice as many teams with 9 or more loses (7) than Henry played against teams with a losing record.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:54 pm to RollTide1987
Henry is in the top 5...All SEC RB stable(updated with OU and Texas) Herschal, Bo, Emmitt Smith, Adrian Peterson, Earl Campbell, Henry, Jamal Lewis..
I dare any all time Defense from another conference dare stop that.
I dare any all time Defense from another conference dare stop that.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:57 pm to NickPapageorgio
My point is that no one looks at those guys and thinks about college… they think about their accomplishments as a professional.
If Mahomes was thought of for his collegiate performance than he wouldn’t even be thought of. No one knew who he was out of college, and he likely goes down as a top 5 QB all time due to his titles.
The only players who are thought of for college performances are those who fizzled out in the NFL.
IMO my favorite college RB ever is Darren McFadden. That doesn’t make him the best RB ever.
Bo and Herschel were awesome but they aren’t the best ever because at 30 they weren’t having 1800 yard seasons and scoring 15 TDs against the best players on the planet.
If Mahomes was thought of for his collegiate performance than he wouldn’t even be thought of. No one knew who he was out of college, and he likely goes down as a top 5 QB all time due to his titles.
The only players who are thought of for college performances are those who fizzled out in the NFL.
IMO my favorite college RB ever is Darren McFadden. That doesn’t make him the best RB ever.
Bo and Herschel were awesome but they aren’t the best ever because at 30 they weren’t having 1800 yard seasons and scoring 15 TDs against the best players on the planet.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:03 pm to collegefootballisbroken
Well you are moving the argument.
That was the topic. His
Nothing in the NFL he does will change his collegiate performance. That'd be his NFL performance.
He was a great SEC back. No doubt. Top 15, top 10 maybe even top 5. Truly impressive.
He'll never be the SEC legend Walker and Jackson are however.
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Has Derrick Henry's NFL career altered your opinion of his collegiate performance?
That was the topic. His
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collegiate performance
Nothing in the NFL he does will change his collegiate performance. That'd be his NFL performance.
He was a great SEC back. No doubt. Top 15, top 10 maybe even top 5. Truly impressive.
He'll never be the SEC legend Walker and Jackson are however.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:14 pm to NickPapageorgio
True, I don’t even know why the OP is worried about collegiate greatness anyways.
Derrick Henry wasn’t the starter at Bama long enough to be “the legend” that they were. He easily would have been if he was.
He also would already have 13k rushing yards and 120 TDs if he started in the NFL his first two seasons as well.
He obviously was ready but the Titans listened to all that “too big” nonsense the media was spewing and obtained another star running back they were forced to start.
Derrick Henry wasn’t the starter at Bama long enough to be “the legend” that they were. He easily would have been if he was.
He also would already have 13k rushing yards and 120 TDs if he started in the NFL his first two seasons as well.
He obviously was ready but the Titans listened to all that “too big” nonsense the media was spewing and obtained another star running back they were forced to start.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 9:18 pm to collegefootballisbroken
Who did Herschel and Bo play behind at their schools?
Henry had almost no carries in 2013 and split in 2014 before becoming the starter in 2015.
If he had the carries those two had then he is “the legend”.
Bama was an absolute machine then with so many elite players it was hard for any one player to be considered a legend. You were scared of Alabama not one individual player.
Ask NFL players if they like playing against Derrick Henry
Henry had almost no carries in 2013 and split in 2014 before becoming the starter in 2015.
If he had the carries those two had then he is “the legend”.
Bama was an absolute machine then with so many elite players it was hard for any one player to be considered a legend. You were scared of Alabama not one individual player.
Ask NFL players if they like playing against Derrick Henry
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:00 pm to RollTide1987
He’s top ten all time. His NFL career has lasted longer than I thought. The guy can take a pounding but also dish it out. He could have won a title if Kiffin would have used him more against OSU. He was gashing OSU. Although to be fair, Elliott was gashing Bammer too.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:47 pm to 3down10
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Since it's such a small amount of data, we can review these seasons. In 1980, they played 1 ranked team. #9 Notre Dame and won 17-10. (2 TD) In 1981, they played #1 Clemson and lost 13-3. (0 TD) They played #2/4 Pitt and lost 24-20(2 TD). In 1982 they beat #8 Clemson, 13-7(0 TD). However, Walker was injured and only used as a decoy. They lost to #1 Penn St 27-23 (1 TD). If I missed a big game, please feel free to point it out. I try to be fair and use end of season rankings even if they weren't ranked at the time(like Clemson in 1981). He averaged 1 TD per ranked team he played.
Putting on your glasses and reviewing this shite doesn’t mean anything. It just means you have too much time on your hands and you enjoy working hard and not smart. Thanks for the analyzation of Georgia’s opponents from 45 seasons ago - it doesn’t add any validity to your opinion unfortunately. You haven’t proven Henry is objectively better or worse than Walker.
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Then why are you comparing them?
I’m not. I said they are both great and breaking down stats from totally different eras doesn’t prove anything, you’re just a fricking stats dork.
A big difference is everyone knew Herschel was getting the ball and that Henry played on a team with the best linemen, All-conference Quarterbacks and NFL receivers, as well as the best defense. Saying that isn’t a factor if you want to sit there and break down every individual stat and not consider that… seems a little biased. And that doesn’t make one better than the other. It’s just a fact that’s a little more objective than comparing statistics. Im just pointing out an objective reality. They’re both great, generational backs.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:29 am to RollTide1987
Guy is an absolute beast
Posted on 12/27/24 at 12:46 am to FireDanMullen
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Putting on your glasses and reviewing this shite doesn’t mean anything. It just means you have too much time on your hands and you enjoy working hard and not smart. Thanks for the analyzation of Georgia’s opponents from 45 seasons ago - it doesn’t add any validity to your opinion unfortunately. You haven’t proven Henry is objectively better or worse than Walker.
Yes, it does. Especially since your claims that Walker was the reason they had success are complete horse shite. In 1983 Georgia had more than DOUBLE the ranked wins in that year alone than they had in Walkers entire 3 year career.
1983:
#11 Clemson - Win
#13/17 UCLA - Win
#6 Florida - Win
#5 Texas - Win
And they lost to #3 Auburn.
But sure, it was all Walker even though they did better without him. The best win they had when he played was against #9 Notre Dame in 1980. The other ranked win he barely played.
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I’m not.
Yes, you are.
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A big difference is everyone knew Herschel was getting the ball and that Henry played on a team with the best linemen, All-conference Quarterbacks and NFL receivers, as well as the best defense. Saying that isn’t a factor if you want to sit there and break down every individual stat and not consider that… seems a little biased. And that doesn’t make one better than the other. It’s just a fact that’s a little more objective than comparing statistics. Im just pointing out an objective reality. They’re both great, generational backs.
According to this stupid logic it's impossible that the greatest players ever played on great teams with great players.
I can't take anyone dumb enough to suggest such a thing seriously, especially when the difference in competition is even greater.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 12:47 am
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:02 am to RollTide1987
Top 5 RB at every level alltime.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:18 am to RollTide1987
He's got the stats, but I prefer the highlights of his stiff-arms and 99 yard TD runs.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 7:15 am to BFANLC
Crap talk ended after he ate fournette
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