re: Has Auburn closed the gap with BAMA?

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Chizik has been undefeated 3 of the last 7 years



What? Wasn't he 5-19 at Iowa State and like 8-5 last year at Auburn?

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2010- 12-0
2005- 14-0
2004- 13-0

Now Chizik's time as an assistant counts is this argument? Can we use Saban's time as an assistant at Michigan State and Ohio State as arguments?

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He is counting '04 auburn and '05 texas. Which is dumb because he wasn't the HC

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Yea, that is dumb. He probably did more actual coaching in 2004 and 2005 than this year. By the way you are welcome to pull up saban's career stats when he was an assistant or coordinator as well. I think the total is still 1.

Same for Saban at Alabama.

Of course I knew this would be turned into a pissing match by the likes of nievetiger and co. (a few BAMA fans took his bait). Two years ago the Iron Bowl was 36 - 0. I thought that that was enough of an indicatinon that one team was ahead of the other but some had to go the last 5,10,15 year series record route. Sorry about that. I wasnt asking who was the better school historically. This thread was not intended to be a pissing match/flame type thing. BAMA fans are sore and rationalizing the loss, Auburn fans are sky high and getting way ahead of themselves so I was really interested in how others saw the two schools for the immediate future. Thanks for those who gave honest unbiased opinions, even those that came from fans of one of the two schools.

Due to the ever changing nature of the SEC due to parity (f*ck that word, FWIW), I wouldn't say either program is ever as far ahead, or behind, of the other as the fans of that program would like to think.

A player here or there can turn a 7-5 or 8-4 one year team into a conference champ the next.

The days of one team totally dominating may be gone.

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Yea they are good now, but in this millenium we have owned that shite.

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past 30 years we have owned them. take bahr out of the record book (since they like saying what if auburn didnt have cam) and we OWN them.

12-9 before bear

6-19 during bear

17-12 since bear

only time yall have been better than us is with bear.

3-2 last 5 years

7-3 last 10 years

9-6 last 15 years

11-9 last 20 years

15-10 last 25 years

17-13 last 30 years

While Auburn has had the upper hand since 1999, Alabama was crippled to some extent from 2002-2006. Let's have this argument again in 10 years. Both programs will have been on equal footing, at least in what they're afforded in terms of program building.

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Has Auburn closed the gap with BAMA?
12-9 before bear

6-19 during bear

17-12 since bear

only time yall have been better than us is with bear.

3-2 last 5 years

7-3 last 10 years

9-6 last 15 years

11-9 last 20 years

15-10 last 25 years

17-13 last 30 years

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Damn, I hate to fall into this so I'll make one post in regards to this type of argument from an Auburn fan. It's like how they always want to point out their record against Saban but fail to equate that he won 2 National and 3 SEC Titles in three of his wins against them. Last 30 years BAMA has 2 National and 4 SEC Titles. Yeah Auburn has 4 more wins against BAMA in that time frame but wouldnt you gladely trade 4 wins for the titles? It basicaly screams to me that head to head the teams have been fairly even but that when BAMA is good they have a great year. When Auburn is good they beat BAMA. The only thing Auburn has to show for their efforts since the title in the fifties is "Punt BAMA Punt".