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re: Has any coach ever actually retired from LSU.. or have they all been fired?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Let's be honest, Bama wouldn't do this today. Two seasons of .500ish records and he'd be gone, just like O.
Some wanted him gone then. But someone smart gave him another year and he went 11-1, 10-2, 11-1(NC), 11-1, 11-1, 9-3, 11-1, 11-1(NC), 12-0(NC), 10-2.
Aside from that, I'm not sure what makes you think Alabama would do that. Stupid fans who can't handle the frustration that results from having too much emotional attachment to something they can't control don't mean shite.
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When I tried to defend BK's win percentage, you insisted he wouldn't have made it at Alabama this long.
Why are you constantly accusing me of saying things I never said?
What I said about BK was that he wasn't a good hire to begin with and that he never showed anything that suggested he could win big games. I said I'd have melted if Alabama hired him.
I also said looking at a coaches win% is pretty dumb because those like BK are an average of 3-4 losses a year.
I've never suggested he, or any other coach would get fired in less than 3 years, or that they would be fired mid season if they were at Alabama because that's not how Alabama does things. The only except is off the field stuff like Mike Price.
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:05 pm to 3down10
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Why are you constantly accusing me of saying things I never said?
You on 5/27/25:
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I have no idea how much either of them make. It has nothing to do with the fact your can't afford to fire your coach.
If Deboer has 11 losses in 3 years, he'll be fired.
Spin away.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:10 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Spin away.
There is nothing to spin. Nothing you quoted contradicts what I said.
No coach would be fired in less than 3 years and no coach is going to be fired mid season.
Your quote was after his 3rd year and before the season started.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:13 pm to 3down10
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It's not embarrassing, but it sucks. You know what sucks more? Going 3-8 and firing your coach.
Yeah, I remember Clappy DuBose. I remember the other guy, Mike Price, also nicknamed Clappy.
But for a different reason.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:14 pm to EKG
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McClendon was not fired; he transitioned to roles like executive director of the Tangerine Bowl
McClendon was going to be fired. They allowed him to step down. Coach Bryant got him that Tangerine Bowl position at double what LSU was paying him.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:14 pm to 3down10
Exactly.
You said if he had 11 losses in 3 years, he'd be fired. Which means he wouldn't have made it to year 4. Which means he wouldn't have made it at Bama "this long".
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When I tried to defend BK's win percentage, you insisted he wouldn't have made it at Alabama this long.
You said if he had 11 losses in 3 years, he'd be fired. Which means he wouldn't have made it to year 4. Which means he wouldn't have made it at Bama "this long".
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:20 pm to mattloc
IIRC Arnsparger resigned to be the AD at Florida, and of course Saban.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You said if he had 11 losses in 3 years, he'd be fired. Which means he wouldn't have made it to year 4. Which means he wouldn't have made it at Bama "this long".
But we wouldn't fire him because he was 5-3 in the middle of a season. You kept him the next season and then fired him little over half way in the middle of it.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:41 pm to 3down10
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But we wouldn't fire him because he was 5-3 in the middle of a season. You kept him the next season and then fired him little over half way in the middle of it.
I mean, that's your opinion. You also said LSU wouldn't fire BK and here we are.
I don't think Bama would be any more patient than LSU has been, but that's also my opinion.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:58 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I mean, that's your opinion. You also said LSU wouldn't fire BK and here we are.
I don't think Bama would be any more patient than LSU has been, but that's also my opinion.
A coach who went 3-8 finished the season with us.
A coach who went 6-6 finished the season with us.
Those are the only coaches we've fired in the past 60 years, so that is all I have to go by. The coaches who left all did so on records of like 10-2 or 10-3. Those hurt.
I can't see the future, but I see nothing that indicates we would do such things. It's not really smart in most cases.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:59 pm to 3down10
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A coach who went 3-8 finished the season with us.
A coach who went 6-6 finished the season with us.
Much different times now
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Much different times now
Oh yeah, did LSU win more games by firing Brian Kelly?
Did your recruiting improve?
Does your outlook for the future look better by firing him now rather than later?
All so you can hire another coach who's motivated by money and doesn't have any problems what so ever fricking over the team he's already been at for years in your best case outcome? So that he can get on the job a month earlier.
Where is the real benefit? All it did was appease butthurt fans. I get it to some degree, but it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction. Now you're stuck having to pay him a huge amount or go to court over it. So that you can do it again with the next coach.
I'm pretty happy with the last hire Alabama made and it came at the end of the playoffs.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:49 pm to 3down10
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Oh yeah, did LSU win more games by firing Brian Kelly?
Did your recruiting improve?
Does your outlook for the future look better by firing him now rather than later?
All so you can hire another coach who's motivated by money and doesn't have any problems what so ever fricking over the team he's already been at for years in your best case outcome? So that he can get on the job a month earlier.
Where is the real benefit? All it did was appease butthurt fans. I get it to some degree, but it was a bit of a knee jerk reaction. Now you're stuck having to pay him a huge amount or go to court over it. So that you can do it again with the next coach.
I don't think it makes a huge difference when the guy is fired either way. If you believe the rumors, Kelly was fired because he was insubordinate.
Either way, he clearly lost the team in the second half vs A&M.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:51 pm to mattloc
I smell the FEAR!
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:54 pm to 3down10
The difference is Bryant had earned more time after going 6-5 and 6-5-1. He had 3 national titles and 4 SEC title under his belt already just at Bama.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:58 pm to 3down10
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Hell, you didn't even give Kelly a chance to finish his 4th season. He was 5-3 this year when fired.
Be honest. If he were your coach and you had to watch your team perform so poorly, wouldn’t you want him gone?
The man said the LSU OL was the best he’d ever had - that much obliviousness should not be rewarded
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:01 pm to GoGators1995
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The difference is Bryant had earned more time after going 6-5 and 6-5-1. He had 3 national titles and 4 SEC title under his belt already just at Bama.
Yep, and LSU fired Coach O a year and a half after his NC.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:06 pm to OccamsStubble
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I’d be a great deal more embarrassed to see my head coach walk out on my program than to see my program fire the coach. Most would rather break up with the girl than have her tell you to kick rocks.
We know. We have had the pleasure of watching the aftermath of Saban leaving LSU for over 20 years.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:06 pm to BayouENGR
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Be honest. If he were your coach and you had to watch your team perform so poorly, wouldn’t you want him gone?
The man said the LSU OL was the best he’d ever had - that much obliviousness should not be rewarded
I don't blame fans for wanting him gone. The way he acts on the side line was down right embarrassing. Not becoming of a head coach.
But I will blame your AD for giving him such a contract to start with and then firing him mid season on a knee jerk reaction. Those are terrible decisions and you're all looking to do the same thing again.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:07 pm to 3down10
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But I will blame your AD for giving him such a contract to start with and then firing him mid season on a knee jerk reaction. Those are terrible decisions and you're all looking to do the same thing again.
Why is firing someone midseason a terrible decision?
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