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re: Harsin is losing them faster than he’s getting them.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:53 pm to RT1941
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:53 pm to RT1941
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Right now Auburn is a wait 'n see type program with a lot to prove on the field. IMO, a change in offensive philosophy will be the main thing prospects will be looking for this year - then Harsin can build on that.
I suspect a lot of recruits are waiting to see what his system looks like in action in the SEC...and I get that. He isn't a household name in SEC country, but several of his assistants are and have been around a while.
I'd rather he take his time and build things the right way rather than coming out of the gate like Gus and Chizik did, but not setting the foundation.
I can't speak for other Auburn fans, but I am willing to to give him some time, barring a total shitshow.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:55 pm
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:07 pm to Leto II
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Again, 15 years ago? And that was AFTER we sacked the frick out of Brodie.
If you don't see the difference between (Bama fans mostly) starting multiple threads about a new coach who hasn't coached a single game yet at Auburn and Mike Shula and Brodie Croyle, I can't really help you.
Is "apples and oranges" the right way to describe those two situations?
I, like a lot of people were skeptical of Saban coming back to the SEC and his longevity. I guess you could make that comparison, but again, that was 15 years ago and I doubt you would be able to find many threads supporting that argument from that long ago. But I'm also not a fricking troll like the OP Daniel either who started Harsin threads 2 days in a row.
I think you missed the point, which is that nobody is worried about your coach, we are just laughing at you.
Just like back then, none of you gave a frick about those things, no matter if you could post here or not, you just enjoyed laughing at Alabama.
If you need to believe people are really worried about the worst Boise St coach of the past 20 years, then it's probably the case that you are the one worried about it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:13 pm to 3down10
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I think you missed the point, which is that nobody is worried about your coach
I beg to differ
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you just enjoyed laughing at Alabama.
Well yeah, because you gave us a reason to. Stupid threads like this from a Houston grad masquerading as a Bama fan are nothing but wishful thinking at this point.
Can anybody here have an actual fricking discussion without trolling, or am I just naive to assume that could happen?
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:13 pm to Poker Dough
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If Harsin works out you, all your alters, all you personalities, and all the retards like you will look dumb....which I'm sure you're used to, you have to be to screw up orders in a drive thru.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:15 pm to Leto II
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I beg to differ
If you need to believe it, that's fine.
Personally, I'd rather face him than Gus, who has been the most successful coach against Saban over the past 14 years.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:18 pm to 3down10
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who has been the most successful coach against Saban over the past 14 years.
And he was one of the worst coaches vs. UGA and LSU during his tenure.
I'm getting a little tired the Gus was a great coach narrative all of a sudden because we all know it's not true. It's not like Gus was the first Auburn coach to have success vs. Alabama. And he really didn't have that much success because when he lost, he lost badly.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:20 pm to Leto II
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Well yeah, because you gave us a reason to. Stupid threads like this from a Houston grad masquerading as a Bama fan are nothing but wishful thinking at this point.
Can anybody here have an actual fricking discussion without trolling, or am I just naive to assume that could happen?
Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are trolling you.
And look, it's college football. As far as him having any kind of success, he's going to need good players to do it. So while I'm sure you won't finish this far down, it's damn sure funny watching it happen.
If he recruits like he's at Boise St, it will be a few years until I stop laughing.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:21 pm to RT1941
To start I expect him to recruit a complete and balanced roster. No position group should ever be the heaping pile of shite our OL became under Gus
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:24 pm to 3down10
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Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are trolling you.
Didn't say that. This is a troll thread. And so was the one he started Saturday.
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If he recruits like he's at Boise St, it will be a few years until I stop laughing.
He recruited pretty well for Boise State. They have a decent number of players in the NFL for their program. Did Saban recruit the same at LSU as he did at Michigan State? Di Urban Meyer recruit the same at Utah as he did in Florida? I know there are several retarded Alabama posters who don't realize that the assistants do a bulk of the recruiting and a few of our coaches have been very good recruiters in the SEC and elsewhere.
Would you expect kids to sign away 4 years of their life (not really actually these days) without visiting the campus or meeting the new staff? Or watching them in action?
I really don't know any Auburn fans who are concerned right now. We all understand the dynamics of Covid, no campus visits and a brand new staff. But if you are just going to write him off as "uhhh Boise State" without considering any of those factors, then that's on you.
Gus Malzahn, the one you think so highly of left him with a class ranked in the 60s two weeks before early signing.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:29 pm to 3down10
Do you think Harsin doesn't realize the expectation at Auburn is much greater than Boise? Do you realize he has assistants who are well versed in recruiting? Did you know one of our coaches who is new to the college level is recruiting well because he was in the NFL for years and won a Super Bowl ring....he has credibility.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:33 pm to Poker Dough
At BSU they expect perfect seasons. It’s obviously different.
Harsin strikes me as a high floor coach. He’s too organized and discipline to let it crash.
Harsin strikes me as a high floor coach. He’s too organized and discipline to let it crash.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:41 pm to bisonduck
Exactly. He was the first ex Boise state player to be coach. He has security. Why leave that if he was unclear of the expectation
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:49 pm to Leto II
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He recruited pretty well for Boise State. They have a decent number of players in the NFL for their program. Did Saban recruit the same at LSU as he did at Michigan State? Di Urban Meyer recruit the same at Utah as he did in Florida? I know there are several retarded Alabama posters who don't realize that the assistants do a bulk of the recruiting and a few of our coaches have been very good recruiters in the SEC and elsewhere.
Boise St recruiting ranks:
2019: #54
2018: #57
2017: #64
2016: #68
Auburn recruiting right now: #58
And yes, he should be able to recruit much better at Auburn than he did at Boise St. I expect he will.
I'm just saying that if what he's done so far keeps up, it's going to be pretty funny for my end.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:54 pm to Poker Dough
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Exactly. He was the first ex Boise state player to be coach. He has security. Why leave that if he was unclear of the expectation
He wasn't meeting the expectations at Boise St, so I'm not sure what your point is.
The only reason he hadn't already been fired is because he was a former Boise st player. Fans were generally either ready to get rid of him, or they wanted to give him more time due to former player status.
Basically, you hired their version of Mike Shula.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:57 pm to BLG
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but this is at least 6 since the guy was hired
but we also got 6 transfers in the portal since Harsin was hired dingus
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:57 pm to 3down10
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I'm just saying that if what he's done so far keeps up, it's going to be pretty funny for my end.
I'm just saying he hasn't had time to do much considering he's only had a chance to visit with recruits in person for the last few weeks.
If you want to lay judgement on him for what he's done or not done in 6 months, emerging from Covid, without meeting a single recruit face-to-face or without them visiting campus, then do so at your peril.
He took Malzahn's class ranked in the 60s to 19 in a matter of a few weeks, while retaining (at the time) the commitments we already had.
And if he he isn't starting to gain traction in the next 18 months or so, we will replace him.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:58 pm to 3down10
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The only reason he hadn't already been fired is because he was a former Boise st player. Fans were generally either ready to get rid of him, or they wanted to give him more time due to former player status.
Just stop. This is getting asinine.
You have no evidence to support that.
He was:
12-2
9-4
10-3
11-3
10-3
12-2
5-2
He wasn't getting fired and there was no sentiment to get rid of him.
Nobody knows who is or anything about his program, but then everybody is a Boise State expert all of a sudden
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:02 pm to 3down10
If you say it enough will it come true?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:07 pm to 3down10
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I'm just saying that if what he's done so far keeps up, it's going to be pretty funny for my end.
What has he done so far?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:07 pm to Leto II
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Just stop. This is getting asinine.
You have no evidence to support that.
He was:
12-2
9-4
10-3
11-3
10-3
12-2
5-2
He wasn't getting fired and there was no sentiment to get rid of him.
You don't know Boise St fans very well do you?
Those are not the kind of results they expect. You seem to believe they are just like any other G5 fanbase, and they are not anything like that.
They expect and want to be a P5 team in the near future. They expect and want to be a national contender.
Are they a bit unrealistic? frick yes, they make me want to throat punch them half the time. They always think they are better and deserve more than they are.
But that's the reality of their fan base and what they expect. They wanted change the same way your fan base wanted change with Gus, despite his moments of success.
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