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re: Ha Ha received money from asst strength coach

Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:10 pm to
Shows you to be ignorant.

Birmingham post-hearald / BHAM NEWS broke the Antonio Langham story.

FAIL
Posted by Rebman601
Tejas
Member since May 2010
2689 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:11 pm to
I'm hearing this is going to get very ugly for bama and that Saban is likely getting the hell out of dodge.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

I just read the article.

It seems the 500 shouldn't be a big deal, now the 12 Charger, ipad, custom embroidery, Air Jordans...etc, seem excessive for a dude that cant scratch up 500 bucks. 2+2=4



Really, doesn't this guy have a dorm room to sleep in? It looks like he is living out of his car...


More seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if the backpack and sandals - shoes too probably - were all free-issue equipment to him from the FB program. The players all get free swag as part of the school's contract with whoever, in this case Nike. Sweat suits, tees, shorts, sandals and sneakers. The embroideries were most likely because the entire team gets the same stuff, and the numbers help keep them with who they belong to...

Posted by Moonlight
Florence, Italy
Member since Jan 2007
1171 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:14 pm to
HA HA HO HO HEE HEE Do da bama boggie
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

Shows you to be ignorant.

Birmingham post-hearald / BHAM NEWS broke the Antonio Langham story.

FAIL





Isn't your bedtime 6:00?

Want me to warm you some milk and ready your slippers, pops?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:16 pm to
The two words that will send lots of posters here into a tizzy of rage and frustration and the rest into a faint of relief:

"Secondary violation"

Honestly, if it weren't Bama, this story would be relegated to a side-bar headline. Secondary violations are so common at every single major university in football that self-reporting them is just the equivalent of spring cleaning.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:16 pm to
HaHa and Dee Hart both along with Trent Richardson were piss poor growing up
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71872 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

HaHa and Dee Hart both along with Trent Richardson were piss poor growing up

yet HaHa has a new Dodge Charger with 2 12 inch sub woofers. not saying this doesn't happen everywhere, because it does, but let's not act like they're living the life of a vagrant in college
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14660 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:19 pm to
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I bet your dick is so hard it could cut glass right now



And yours has shriveled up like a scared turtle.
Posted by tigerhoney
Member since Mar 2005
7879 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

I bet your dick is so hard it could cut glass right now


I know mine is.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14220 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:20 pm to
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This is my question on the situation and I might have missed if someone in the know answered it.


1 when hcd took the loan he because ineligible

2- to become eligible again, he would have to go thru the NCAA via alabama compliance department.

3- since that process has not taken place, he was ineligible in every games he's played in


So what is the penalty for playing an ineligible player? Is it to forfeit games?


4- if it has to be that "alabama knowingly played an ineligible player" to be forfeited...well a member of the Alabama coaching staff DID know, did not say anything and allowed him to play.

So who and how many people have to know?

This is not only hcd violating the rules but a member of Alabamas coaching staff.



1. He took it during the summer.

2. Supposedly thats the way it works but bama fans say because he showed a bunch of withdraw slips that was equaled to or more than what the coach gave him, that he said he gave the coach means he was automatic eligible again until Bama found out.

3. Same as 2.

4. Schools usually have to forfeit games that ineligible players play in.

Usually a staff member or AD official. As was in this case with a coach being the one giving the extra benefits.

It depends on the randomness of the NCAA and Mark Emmert. If there are any vacated games the NCAA will drag it out until the season is over so they won't really matter.
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 5:33 pm
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:22 pm to
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a 2012 car is not brand new in 2013, its 2 years old. i dont know hahas situation, but if he is dirt poor he probably gets a pell grant, which is like $460 + a month, more than enough to cover car payment and insurance for a 2012 challenger. If hes not poor, then whats to say his parents cant buy him a car, considering they dont have to pay tuition, room and board, etc? black guy cant afford to buy shoes or own a car. racist frick.


Bama players sure do love them some Challengers.
Posted by bamakat
anniston, al
Member since Nov 2010
1700 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:26 pm to
You rebs need to worry about your own program. Your program is being investigated by NCAA for recruiting violations.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:28 pm to
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The Tarheel administration kicked Butch's arse out over that,


Wrong, Davis was fired because of the academic scandal. The issues with his other coach probably helped but that had been lingering but the academic was the final nail in his coffin.

"Our academic integrity is paramount, and we must work diligently to protect it," Thorp said in a statement. "The only way to move forward and put this behind us is to make a change."
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71872 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

but if he is dirt poor he probably gets a pell grant, which is like $460 + a month, more than enough to cover car payment and insurance for a 2012 challenger

i just bought a 2008 tahoe and put down a sizable down payment. the monthly payments alone are almost $400. without a down payment, i would have been looking at around 500+ a month. but seriously, let's not try to pretend like athletes that drive nice cars are all going through ncaa compliant means to obtain them. it happens everywhere. don't try to read what i wrote like alabama is the only school where this happens. what is funny is how some, not all, bama fans are trying to justify all these things as if there's nothing abnormal about a poor kid having a nice car because he happens to be on scholarship. if he couldn't afford to pay for college, he's not going to be able to afford to pay for the car. how would he even get approved for a loan on a car? i can guarantee you there are very few college students that will be approved for a loan on a car without a co-signer. and if he was poor growing up, like others have said, where is he going to find a co-signer for a nice car?
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black guy cant afford to buy shoes or own a car. racist frick.

uh, where did i say anything of the sort. and btw, just a couple posts down, someone from your own fanbase said he was dirt poor. i said a college kid that can't find $500 from a relative probably can't afford to buy all the things he has.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9550 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

1 when hcd took the loan he because ineligible


This is true

quote:

2- to become eligible again, he would have to go thru the NCAA via alabama compliance department.


This is correct but I'm not sure if it's a matter of going through the proper procedures "when you find out" about a violation or right after the violation occurs. There could definitely be vacating of wins issues if it's a right after it happens rule.

quote:

3- since that process has not taken place, he was ineligible in every games he's played in


Maybe, maybe not. See response to question #2.

quote:

So what is the penalty for playing an ineligible player? Is it to forfeit games?

4- if it has to be that "alabama knowingly played an ineligible player" to be forfeited...well a member of the Alabama coaching staff DID know, did not say anything and allowed him to play.


Playing an ineligible player results in the vacating of wins. Forfeiture of wins only happens when an ineligible player or players is played "knowingly". This happened in the Langham case and is a big no no. UA compliance clearly knew well before the 1993 season that there was an agent issue with Langham and didn't follow proper protocol. This is a much different situation even though a staffer is involved.

Bottom line: The worst that happens is that the 4 games have to be vacated and there is a minor scholly hit of 2 or 3 total schollies and "probation". That's the absolute extreme end of the penalty meter imho. The more likely penalty is the coach is fired, Dix sits for 4 or more games, and MAYBE the 4 games are vacated but that probably doesn't happen unless the NCAA is mad at us for some reason.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:32 pm to
LOL Obama-Cocks
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5404 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:37 pm to
I haven't read everything in this thread, but this I know:

D.J. McCarthy was fired, and LSU received 1 year probation and a reduction of 2 scholarships, for McCarthy giving Akiem Hicks a ride from the Airport and making arrangements for him to spend the night at another student's apartment in the summer just before Hicks reported to LSU for Fall camp. Akiem Hicks was ruled ineligible to play for LSU that year.

So........... People that say that an Asst. Coach giving a player less than $500 is not a big deal, well, it depends on what you think "Not a big deal" is.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71872 posts
Posted on 10/3/13 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

D.J. McCarthy was fired, and LSU received 1 year probation and a reduction of 2 scholarships, for McCarthy giving Akiem Hicks a ride from the Airport and making arrangements for him to spend the night at another student's apartment in the summer just before Hicks reported to LSU for Fall camp. Akiem Hicks was ruled ineligible to play for LSU that year.

he never regained his eligibility. ended up playing college ball in canada. and iirc, it was due to him not being cleared academically yet, so LSU couldn't provide him with housing until he was. big difference in this and Clinton-Dix is Hicks never played a down of football for LSU
This post was edited on 10/3/13 at 5:40 pm
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