re: gundy interview on van pelt...

OU beat 6 ranked teams in 2003.

USC beat 1 ranked team and still lost to an unranked, six loss team.

There is no logical argument for 2003 USC being invited to the NC Game. Even Miami of Ohio had a stronger case. LSU and OU deserved to be in the NC Game, and the computers assured us of that. USC's case was so poor that despite the media's fervent attempt to get USC in, the objective results did not allow it.

It's his fault. He cost his team a shot by saying he would rank Bama ahead of his team the week prior.

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I'll tell you something I can't get over that no one is really talking about. The fact that the Big ? scheduled this game on the weekend of the championship games.

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I felt the same way.

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LSU lost to a 5 loss team at home. USC lost to a 6 loss team in OT. Both were bad losses but didn't compare to how KSU stomped OU. AP had USC number one and the computers bumped OU. It should have been LSU/USC.

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Well using Bama logic, OU had the best loss (KSU had 4 losses), followed by LSU, followed by USC. So the BCS was correct.

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There is definitely doubt that the two best teams are playing. Alabama's case to be in the NC Game is defined, not just bolstered, by its loss to LSU at home. Outside of that game, Alabama has a very, very weak schedule. Arkansas and Penn State are the only borderline good teams Alabama faced all year, but we saw Arkansas struggle against the Bix XII's #7 and Penn State feasted off the worst Big 10 season in recent memory, which is saying something considering how poor the Big 10 has been recently. This year is the first year in BCS Era history that a team's case to be in the NC Game was built entirely on a loss. That direction is a direction in the negative for college football.

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The problem is that you conveniently failed to mention that Oklahoma State also "struggled against the Big 12's #7 team" trailing 21-3 before pulling out a last minute win over Texas A&M. Alabama blew away the same Arkansas team 38-14 that played Texas A&M to the same close win that Oklahoma State did. Arkansas played A&M completely beat up from their game with Alabama the week before too. In other words, Arkansas is every bit as good as Oklahoma State is. This is probably yet another reason the voters put Alabama ahead of Oklahoma State. Alabama had the better win of the two teams and a much better loss. We also beat our 3 ranked teams by an average of 23 points with 2 of those games being on the road. Okie State beat 8 bowl teams while Alabama beat 7.

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The problem is that you conveniently failed to mention that Oklahoma State also "struggled against the Big 12's #7 team" trailing 21-3 before pulling out a last minute win over Texas A&M. Alabama blew away the same Arkansas team 38-14 that played Texas A&M to the same close win that Oklahoma State did. Arkansas played A&M completely beat up from their game with Alabama the week before too. In other words, Arkansas is every bit as good as Oklahoma State is. This is probably yet another reason the voters put Alabama ahead of Oklahoma State.
Alabama had the better win of the two teams and a much better loss. We also beat our 3 ranked teams by an average of 23 points with 2 of those games being on the road. Okie State beat 8 bowl teams while Alabama beat 7.

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Exactly.

Wouldn't the "Complete Body of Work" that so many people claim to be considering also include how convincing / dominant the actual performances were?

You can still make a case for Oklahoma St but you can hardly claim you're looking at the "total body of work" or "overall resume" when you efface any aspect of it doesn't support one of the teams.

That's simply cherry picking convenient aspects of each resume to spin an argument.

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Outside of that game, Alabama has a very, very weak schedule. Arkansas and Penn State are the only borderline good teams Alabama faced all year, but we saw Arkansas struggle against the Bix XII's #7 and Penn State feasted off the worst Big 10 season in recent memory, which is saying something considering how poor the Big 10 has been recently. This year is the first year in BCS Era history that a team's case to be in the NC Game was built entirely on a loss. That direction is a direction in the negative for college football.

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Alabama blew out its opponents by the widest margin of victory in the nation.
Alabama’s seven SEC wins came by an average of 30 points. Its closest win all season was 16 points, at Penn State, and it wasn't that close.
Bama leads the nation in total defense, scoring defense, rushing defense, passing defense, pass efficiency defense and third down defense.
At 8.8 points per game, the Tide are the least scored-upon team in Division I in more than a decade.
Lest you think they’re all defense, remember they have a Heisman finalist. On offense.
In fact, Bama’s offense is ranked at the top of the SEC.
The only thing standing between Alabama and a perfect season is a three-point overtime loss to the undisputed No. 1 team that came down to field goals.
There are only three ranked teams that do not have a loss to a team lower than them: LSU, Alabama, and Arkansas (with 24-point losses to both Alabama and LSU)
Alabama gave up just 67 points in its eight SEC games, a schedule including two opponents in the Top 6 of the BCS rankings.
Remember that number 67, because that’s how many points Oklahoma State gave up to Tulsa and UL-Lafayette.
Talk about “schedule strength” all you want. Alabama did its job against those opponents by browbeating them unmercifully. It plays in the SEC and had an out of conference game against a solid opponent. No need to apologize for schedule.
Oklahoma State also had some weak opponents. What did they do?  Besides those 67 points to two cupcakes, more importantly, they lost to Iowa State who was a FOUR touchdown underdog. In late November.
Sure, OSU has a high-scoring offense, but unlike Bama, they are not a complete team; their defense is ranked 107th overall.
Unlike Bama, some of the Cowboys wins were nail-biters. They beat TX A&M (who just fired their coach after a disappointing season) by a single point after trailing the entire game. Arkansas scored more on TxAM than OSU, but could only muster 14 on Bama.
Another close win, their best win, is against Kansas State (ranked lower than Arkansas, Bama’s best win). KState scored 45 points. The game ended with KState within 5 yards of the endzone... Again.

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Alabama blew out its opponents by the widest margin of victory in the nation.

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Bama also only played three teams all year over .500.

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Alabama’s seven SEC wins came by an average of 30 points. Its closest win all season was 16 points, at Penn State, and it wasn't that close.

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Congrats on not winning the SEC. Your margin of victory means nothing there. You finished 3rd in the conference.

Face it, you were gifted the game only because you are Bama, and it is your birth right.

Why don't you just admit it? Other Bama fans do.

LOLOLOLOL

Indeed, Bama's logic is a continual movement away from the holes that are exposed in their argument that they deserved to be in the NC Game this year. The reason for the movement? Deep down, Alabama fans know they did not earn a trip to the 2011 NC Game.

Again, for the first time in BCS history, a team got to the NC Game based on a media campaign that used its loss as a reason for worth. Then, out of the other mouth, these Alabama fans say that in 2003 OU didn't deserve to be in the NC Game. Why? Because they didn't win their conference championship game. Ignored is the fact that their loss (to top 10 Kansas State) was far better than LSU's loss (to #24 Florida) and USC's loss (to unranked, six loss Cal).

If we use Alabama's logic for 2011, where a team's loss is what determines its worth, the 2003 BCS got it right: LSU vs OU. I believe the BCS got it right in 2003, but I make that conclusion not with Bama logic. I make that conclusion because of the strength of all three resumes. OU played six ranked teams that season. LSU played six ranked teams that season. USC played one ranked team that season.

As is being exposed by the media only after Bama was given a free pass to the NC Game, this year's Alabama team has by far the weakest resume of any team ever to play for the NC in the BCS Era. Alabama's resume:

1) Not a division champ
2) Not a conference champ
3) Played only three teams above .500
4) Lost at home

A resume as weak as this one that resulted in a free trip to the NC Game is a bad hire. College football has been exposed to the nation again for being a farce, an unjust system that favors prejudice and privilege. Alabama fans can smirk and be unjustly proud of their place in the college football world, but that type of attitude is what will bring college football down. It's a disgraceful sport, the most un-American of all sports.