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re: Greg Schiano spent 5 years at Penn State in the 90’s
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Your OC beat his players at IU, your HC harbored a murderer at UF, and your DC had knowledge of the scandal at PSU and did nothing.
Again, this is like blaming people around Aaron Hernandez for his behavior. Well everyone should have known he was a murderous piece of shite.
Schiano should have known Sandusky was a rapist piece of shite I guess. A second hand recollection and nothing directly from Schiano or the trial has involved Schiano but lets character assassinate this guy because we don't think he's a good enough coach.
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:19 pm to cas4t
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The point is that even if there is a 1% chance this dude saw something and didn't report it, no one on this board should want that coach near their program. If he didn't, that really sucks for him. But that's just how things shake out sometimes.
He's not the rapist, he's been coaching since the time he coached at PSU and never been accused of diddling kids so why is Schiano being character assassinated for some other person's rapes. Makes no damn sense.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:20 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
So McQueary committed perjury? If you think Schiano is innocent, this should be a very easy question for you to answer
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:22 pm to stephendomalley
quote:But McQueary said it in a deposition, so it must be true. After all, he's the only credible person in that entire situation and he'd never lie, about anything.
would you want to be treated like Schiano? Good Lord! somebody said somebody else told him that Schiano saw Sandusky in a shower. and this recollection was recalled 15 years later. Schiano says it didn't happen and the guy who was quoted saying schiano told him that says the conversation never happened.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:24 pm to mountain D values
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Please continue to pretend like he was there 5 years and had no idea lol
The BTK killer worked for the county while being a serial killer.
John Wayne Gacy was considered a pillar of his community while being a serial Killer.
Ed Gein was considered a good worker although awkward while also being a serial killer.
Ted Kazinsky was a math wiz with a genious IQ that went onto become the Unabomber.
Ted Bundy was considered handsome and charming to those he worked with....one even wrote a book....Do you think he was ever suspected by those he worked with......???
Serial abusers also tend to hide their atrocities and tend to be charming individuals. Blaming others for their atrocities is not fair.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:24 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Again, this is like blaming people around Aaron Hernandez for his behavior. Well everyone should have known he was a murderous piece of shite.
Well, McQueary actually saw Sandusky committing his crimes. So your comparison is entirely off abuse.
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Schiano should have known Sandusky was a rapist piece of shite I guess.
Again, someone testified that Schiano did witness it. I understand Schiano and the other coach denied this, but lots of people denied a lot of things during this time, for obvious reasons. It's hard to take anything as concrete in all of this, which is why Currie should have just avoided this altogether.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:24 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
quote:FIVE YEARS in close proximity and you dont think you woulda noticed? BRUH!!!!!!!
Do you think sexual abusers of kids just go around boasting about it and showing off their conquest?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:25 pm to Slackaveli
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FIVE YEARS in close proximity and you dont think you woulda noticed? BRUH!!!!!!!
Must feel good to be that naïve.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:27 pm to mountain D values
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So McQueary committed perjury? If you think Schiano is innocent, this should be a very easy question for you to answer
He never got that out of Schiano's mouth. It was second hand info. If he heard it directly from Schiano it would hold weight. Unfortunately he was repeating something he supposedly heard which is the absolute worst thing about this character assassination.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:32 pm to mountain D values
quote:So, if anyone used that same shower during the approximate time period that Sandusky molested a kid in it, they had to have known and are liars?
Around him in the facilities where the assaults were proven to have taken place.
quote:Please continue to pretend like the status quo at PSU was child-rape orgies involving dozens of boys and hundreds of men that took place 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year in full view of anyone who set foot anywhere near College Station, PA.
Please continue to pretend like he was there 5 years and had no idea lol
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:33 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
Save your breath brother, there is no talking this mob down. They hold the highest esteem for the guy who DID see something and didn't say a word for years.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:33 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
quote:The one thing all the pious Vols ITT will not address, under any circumstance.
It was second hand info
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:33 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
How is that naive? Have you read anything from the trial? He was doing this in the locker room showers. Not to mention it became apparent there was a massive cover-up. Clearly people knew.
We know for a fact from the Freeh reports that at least 4 people knew, undoubtedly. I mean, this is a direct quote from the Freeh report.
I would be suspicious of anyone who worked with Sandusky in any capacity. Period.
We know for a fact from the Freeh reports that at least 4 people knew, undoubtedly. I mean, this is a direct quote from the Freeh report.
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Over the next ten-year period, Sandusky "was frequently at the Lasch Building working out, showing up at campus events that Penn State supported ... He was showering with young boys, staying in dormitories ... There are more red flags than you could count, over a long period of time."
I would be suspicious of anyone who worked with Sandusky in any capacity. Period.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:35 pm to cyde
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But McQueary said it in a deposition, so it must be true
You are my favorite Dandy Lion. And you are right in that it may not be true. But it is a legal deposition, so MCQuery would likely be committing perjury if he was not given an honest account.
Again, that is not enough to convict someone, but it is something anyone should consider when choosing the face of your program.
And again, I am also bothered that way back in 2010 Schiano chose to not comment because he did not want to get into all of that when he was first asked about knowledge of the Sandusky allegations. None of that is any proof of guilt, but I think it does merit thought if you are going to make a hire.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:36 pm to cyde
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The one thing all the pious Vols ITT will not address, under any circumstance.
Nuance escapes some of you. The problem is that it is well documented that the red flags were there. It's pretty fair to wonder how on earth someone who worked directly for Sandusky had no idea, when later on it came out that in fact many people did, and that Sandusky actually wasn't as careful as you'd think he would be, all things considered.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:36 pm to cas4t
quote:Yeah, like his landscaper. That dude says he was cutting the grass and planting hedges, but he had to have known something was up, rite?
I would be suspicious of anyone who worked with Sandusky in any capacity. Period.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:38 pm to cyde
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Yeah, like his landscaper. That dude says he was cutting the grass and planting hedges, but he had to have known something was up, rite?
you know good and well what I meant. In any capacity as it relates to football. It's hard to catch someone in their basement, and the landscaper would have no reason to go to his basement.
You're being obtuse.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:39 pm to cas4t
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How is that naive? Have you read anything from the trial? He was doing this in the locker room showers. Not to mention it became apparent there was a massive cover-up. Clearly people knew.
There was a massive cover up and those that were involved got in trouble. The higher ups covered it up. Schiano is not one of those people that were caught up in emails and discussions trying to hide it.
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I would be suspicious of anyone who worked with Sandusky in any capacity. Period.
What does that have to do with Schiano...are you concerned that he also raped kids without proof? Lets say Schiano had suspicions about Sandusky and never said anything.....does that mean he's guilty of something here? What exactly is the response person is supposed to take when one of your mentors is suspected of raping kids and you have no proof or maybe you do have proof but your terrified of speaking out for fear of retribution. Had Schiano been involved in anything the law would have found out and yet he never got in trouble for anything therefore he's being assassinated on second hand info. Even UT admits they did their due diligence on him and seen nothing wrong from Schianos perspective.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:42 pm to higgs_boson
quote:Thing is, he's giving second-hand information, the truth of which has apparently been denied by both parties (the guy who allegedly told him, and the guy who the information was pertaining to).
But it is a legal deposition, so MCQuery would likely be committing perjury if he was not given an honest account.
I could sit there with some douchebag attorney and a video camera and tell him that someone told me something all day long and dare him to prove that I'm lying about it.
The douchebag attorney simply wouldn't use that information.
Personally, if it comes to light that McQueary's information was less than credible, I hope that Schiano takes McQueary, Clay Travis and UT for every penny they have.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:43 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Schiano is not one of those people that were caught up in emails and discussions trying to hide it.
His name was still mentioned, and fair or not, that alone is something an AD has to consider, due to the optics.
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Lets say Schiano had suspicions about Sandusky and never said anything.....does that mean he's guilty of something here?
Of course not. But I would not trust a person who never said anything when they were suspicious that someone was having sex with young boys.
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What exactly is the response person is supposed to take when one of your mentors is suspected of raping kids and you have no proof or maybe you do have proof but your terrified of speaking out for fear of retribution.
Amazing that you even have to ask this question. You take it up with the proper authorities. You most certainly don't just sit on your hands. My God.
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