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re: Greg Schiano spent 5 years at Penn State in the 90’s
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:04 pm to cas4t
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:04 pm to cas4t
quote:Yes. He testified that someone else told him that Schiano saw something. It was hearsay information that hasn't been corroborated by any other witness or piece of evidence.
Am I missing something then?
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:05 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
Oh wow the guys involved with Penn State deny ever knowing about the pedophilia.
Wonder where we’ve heard that before
Wonder where we’ve heard that before
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:09 pm to cas4t
Cas, you are a reasonable guy.
I do not think anyone thinks there is any evidence to charge this guy. If you take McQuery's account at face value, Schiano did report something in the 90's to his superior. The issue would be that not pursuing it would reflect character and judgement not legal culpability (PA has since codified a very clear protocol for reporting suspicious activity.) Schiano had only recently been promoted from a grad assistant to a defensive back coach.
But I also think it is fair to say that a deposition taken under oath that recounts a prior event indicating Schiano observed such a disturbing, specific thing at such a specific time and location that was later verified to have been happening is fair to consider when hiring someone.
Hell, if none of this happened, I hope he clears his name. He could start by trying some type of legal action against McQuery or guys like Clay Travis I guess.
But again, to be named in a deposition is not just a whisper. I do not think anything McQuery said was ever proven to be false --- and a lot of it was pretty damning to him as well.
I do not think anyone thinks there is any evidence to charge this guy. If you take McQuery's account at face value, Schiano did report something in the 90's to his superior. The issue would be that not pursuing it would reflect character and judgement not legal culpability (PA has since codified a very clear protocol for reporting suspicious activity.) Schiano had only recently been promoted from a grad assistant to a defensive back coach.
But I also think it is fair to say that a deposition taken under oath that recounts a prior event indicating Schiano observed such a disturbing, specific thing at such a specific time and location that was later verified to have been happening is fair to consider when hiring someone.
Hell, if none of this happened, I hope he clears his name. He could start by trying some type of legal action against McQuery or guys like Clay Travis I guess.
But again, to be named in a deposition is not just a whisper. I do not think anything McQuery said was ever proven to be false --- and a lot of it was pretty damning to him as well.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:10 pm to mountain D values
Tennessee fans are trying so hard...
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:11 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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The guy that was said to have relayed that information denied it.
many on the stand also were convicted of perjury. There is no way to know if the guy saw it or not, as he easily could have been trying to protect himself through denying it.
The point is that even if there is a 1% chance this dude saw something and didn't report it, no one on this board should want that coach near their program. If he didn't, that really sucks for him. But that's just how things shake out sometimes.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:12 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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DisplacedBuckeye
Hope Urban has to answer a least one question his hiring of Schiano.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:12 pm to higgs_boson
quote:There really isn't anyway to do that. That's why the legal system places the burden on the accuser.
Hell, if none of this happened, I hope he clears his name.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:12 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Your OC beat his players at IU, your HC harbored a murderer at UF, and your DC had knowledge of the scandal at PSU and did nothing.
Please come preach to us lowly VOLS lol
Please come preach to us lowly VOLS lol
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:12 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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The guy that was said to have relayed that information denied it. So it's bad second hand info on a conversation both the coach who supposedly said it and Schiano deny. So again, it's a very weak argument of Schiano being complacent in the rapes.
That guy also had a victim testify he (Bradley) observed one of the shower incidents. HE worked there forever, of course he would deny it now. Hell, he is much more culpable than Schiano or McQuery if, following the timeline, he was aware of these suspicions for more than a decade.
Again, nothing McQuery said was ever proven false.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:13 pm to Vols&Shaft83
There is nothing to answer.
Just stop. It's beyond pathetic by now...
Just stop. It's beyond pathetic by now...
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:13 pm to higgs_boson
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I do not think anyone thinks there is any evidence to charge this guy. If you take McQuery's account at face value, Schiano did report something in the 90's to his superior. The issue would be that not pursuing it would reflect character and judgement not legal culpability (PA has since codified a very clear protocol for reporting suspicious activity.) Schiano had only recently been promoted from a grad assistant to a defensive back coach.
But I also think it is fair to say that a deposition taken under oath that recounts a prior event indicating Schiano observed such a disturbing, specific thing at such a specific time and location that was later verified to have been happening is fair to consider when hiring someone.
Hell, if none of this happened, I hope he clears his name. He could start by trying some type of legal action against McQuery or guys like Clay Travis I guess.
But again, to be named in a deposition is not just a whisper. I do not think anything McQuery said was ever proven to be false --- and a lot of it was pretty damning to him as well.
All of this. And listen, I'll be the first to say that UT fans, in reality, simply wanted a sexier hire. I understand and agree with that.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:13 pm to mountain D values
In fairness to his coaching ability, as already mentioned, he did turn around a dreadful Rutgers program. He's not as bad a coach as you are making him out to be.
Not sure why you want to keep bashing him, it's over, hes going to get a huge check from Tennessee to not coach there and you can hire Tee or Petrino or Leach or Fulmer.
Not sure why you want to keep bashing him, it's over, hes going to get a huge check from Tennessee to not coach there and you can hire Tee or Petrino or Leach or Fulmer.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:14 pm to kywildcatfanone
He is no better than Butch Jones lol
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:14 pm to mountain D values
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Your OC beat his players at IU, your HC harbored a murderer at UF, and your DC had knowledge of the scandal at PSU and did nothing.
Literally every one of those is make-believe.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:16 pm to mountain D values
Ok. I bet if John Gruden was at Penn State during that time y'all wouldn't have said one word and welcomed him with open arms.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Why did Kevin Wilson leave Indiana?
Did Urban run a clean program at Florida?
Did McQueary commit perjury when he testified that Schiano witnessed Jerry in the showers?
Did Urban run a clean program at Florida?
Did McQueary commit perjury when he testified that Schiano witnessed Jerry in the showers?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:17 pm to mountain D values
quote:Why stop there? Hell, anyone who even knew Sandusky's name prior to the scandal breaking must be guilty of something, right?
Greg Schiano spent 5 years at Penn State in the 90’s
Working directly under Sandusky. I wonder if he ever questioned why all these little boys were running around the complex.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:17 pm to PearlJam
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There really isn't anyway to do that. That's why the legal system places the burden on the accuser.
Why didn't he go after McQueary when he made the statement? Why did he refuse to talk about it when asked? Why was his defense limited to a mere twitter denial after the statement became public?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:18 pm to PearlJam
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It was hearsay information that hasn't been corroborated by any other witness or piece of evidence.
it also hasn't been proven false. I understand the legal system places burden on the accuser, but an AD has more to worry about that the technicalities of the legal system. You make a judgement call based on a ton of factors, including the optics of hiring someone who may have seen child abuse.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:18 pm to cyde
Around him in the facilities where the assaults were proven to have taken place.
Please continue to pretend like he was there 5 years and had no idea lol
Please continue to pretend like he was there 5 years and had no idea lol
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