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re: Greatest CFB team of all time debate: Single Digit Deficit Wins

Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:45 am to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:45 am to
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If we all agree on 95 Nebraska
...we'd probably be right!
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:47 am to
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1995 Nebraska was the most dominant for sure

Let’s use the nfl, mlb, nba excuse.. they played a bunch of plumbers.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:50 am to
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2020 Alabama is not qualified to be in that convo. No asterisks allowed.


Forfeit equals asterisk
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13926 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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they played a bunch of plumbers.



Impossible to compare teams, players of different eras, and skill sets and come up with the definitive answer. But we keep trying.

Especially when it comes to players I just try to enjoy them while they are briefly here and simply be entertained.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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2019 LSU was an onside kick away from losing

One hail mary away from losing by 2 scores
One punt return helped by a facemask away from losing by 3 scores
One fluke trick play away from losing by 4 scores
etc.

Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:58 am to
WTF is that gif? Going to have nightmares now
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13295 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:00 am to
They had 3 single digit wins early in the year when lsu was unhealthy and not clicking on all cylinders. At the end of the year (healthy), they spanked 3 top 5 teams in a row. No team in history could beat the end of the year LSU team.
Osu in 2014 is an example. They weren't amazing at the beginning of the year, but at the end, they were great and beat teams with a 3rd string qb
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:02 am to
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They had 3 single digit wins early in the year when lsu was unhealthy and not clicking on all cylinders


so lsu played 20% of their schedule poorly that year?
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:03 am
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24439 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:08 am to
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2020 Alabama -1



And the 1 was a game with a big halftime deficit in which the losing team cut it to 1 score in the 4th quarter. LSU fans have expressly told us that these do not count as close games




0 close games. 2020 Bama is tGOAT
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:09 am to
That Alabama was never in danger of losing. Florida had no chance to win.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:14 am to
2020 Bama was the greatest COVID team of all time. There is no debating that.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4075 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:16 am to
And other publications don’t even have y’all in the top 5.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4075 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:17 am to
LSU beat 7 top 25 teams. Bama beat 5. They also played a 7-0 team for the title lol.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:21 am to
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And other publications don’t even have y’all in the top 5.


I’d like to see those. The only one I’ve found is one that also has 1995 Nebraska ranked as the 16th best of all time, or something like that.

ETA: 13th.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 9:41 am
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45136 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:22 am to
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That Alabama was never in danger of losing. Florida had no chance to win.


Wow, really? Didn’t Florida score a late touchdown also to make the score to look a lot closer than it actually was? That sounds awfully familiar to another game that a certain fanbase tries to convince themselves was a real nail-biter. I’ll let you think on it for a while.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45136 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:25 am to
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In one of those single digit wins in 2019 LSU was an onside kick away from losing the football game because their defense in the second half looked like swiss cheese after choking away a big halftime lead.


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That Alabama was never in danger of losing. Florida had no chance to win.



The fact that these posts were posted back to back by the same guy is fricking hilarious
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4075 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:25 am to
LINK

Here ya go. It’s a good read.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26259 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:26 am to
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LSU beat 7 top 25 teams. Bama beat 5. They also played a 7-0 team for the title lol.

Oof

/debate

2019 LSU remains the best ever
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45136 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:31 am to
Solid analysis!


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T17. 2020 Alabama (13-0)

All-Time Season Score: 27.2800
Key Season Score Element: 630 points in 13 games
Best Win: Alabama 52, Ohio State 24 (College Football Playoff Championship)
Worst Game: Alabama 38, Missouri 19

Here’s the problem – there weren’t enough games. In the COVID season, Alabama played 13 games instead of the 15 that most College Football Playoff era national championships would get. It also catches a bad break because of the all-SEC schedule – the records of the SEC opponents weren’t as good as they’d normally be. The offense was amazing, there wasn’t any real on-field drama, and it was all against a schedule without any fluff.




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1. 2019 LSU (15-0)

All-Time Season Score: 34.7300
Key Season Score Element: 726 points
Best Win: LSU 42, Clemson 25 (CFP National Championship)
Worst Game: LSU 23, Auburn 20

Some national champions played more tough games, but no one ever did this with the flair, the scoring, and against SO many amazing teams.

2019 LSU beat the four preseason top four-ranked teams, and it rolled through big game after big game against one of the toughest schedules of all-time.

At Texas? Got it. At Alabama? Survive and advance. LSU beat Sugar Bowl champion Georgia, Big 12 champion Oklahoma, and ACC and Peach Bowl winner Clemson all away from Baton Rouge.

But that wasn’t enough.

The Tigers beat Orange Bowl champion Florida. They beat Auburn and Texas A&M, too.

The 15 wins tied 2018 Clemson – welcome to the College Football Playoff era – and were only one behind 1894 Yale. The 726 points were the most scored by any national champion in the history of college football, and again, they came against a schedule that was next-level brutal.

By the way, this ranking isn’t just a function of the day and age – had Clemson won the 2019 national championship, it would’ve finished just inside the top ten.

It all worked out for the SEC Tigers – 2019 LSU had the greatest season of all-time.


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:36 am to
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Here ya go. It’s a good read.


That’s literally the one I just referenced as being the only one I’ve seen. They rank 1995 Nebraska as the 13th best National Champion of all time. Behind teams like 2009 Bama, 2013 Florida State, and 2014 Ohio State, who lost by 14 at home to Va. Tech.

Anything else?
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