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re: Grantland.com on 1978 season/1979 Sugar Bowl

Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:53 am to
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:53 am to
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yet ND rose from 12th to first even though Bamas only loss was at Nebraska 31-24 with 5 turnovers.


Well,maybe they dropped to 12th in Sept after they lost to Ole Miss,but they were 5th when they curb stomped #1 Texas 38-10 in the Cotton Bowl.As 1970's "Nebraska" teams go, that '77 squad was 'okay'. Remember they wound up in the Liberty Bowl. Ala played Missouri in '78,not '77.
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:56 am to
LINK

Since y'all are bringing up 1966 a lot, here is the Grantland article in the same series about that season.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 11:56 am to
As to 1978.....Alabama AP National Champs

This was the year that #2 Alabama defeated #1 Penn State, the only undefeated team in the nation, in the Sugar Bowl.... the famous "Goal Line Stand".

Alabama started the season ranked #l in the AP. USC pre season ranked #9.

Bama's only loss that year was to #7 USC which dropped Alabama from #1 to #7 in week #3. USC jumped from #7 to #2.

Week 6, USC lost to an unranked Arizona St. and dropped from #2 to #7. Meanwhile, Alabama had been moving back up in the polls. So USC had fallen below Bama because of being beaten by an unranked team.

By week nine, only 2 unbeatens... OU and Penn State.
Week 9 top five:
1< 1 Oklahoma (50) Big 8 9-0
2< 2 Penn State (13) Ind 9-0
3< 3 Alabama SEC 8-1
4< 4 Nebraska Big 8 8-1
5< 6 USC Pac-10 7-l

Week 10, OU loses to Neb. and drops. Penn State is #1 and the only undefeated team in the nation. Pollsters jump Neb. above Alabama.
1< 2 Penn State (55) Ind 10-0
2< 4 Nebraska (6) Big 8 9-1
3< 3 Alabama (4) SEC 9-1
4< 1 Oklahoma Big 8 9-1
5< 5 USC (1) Pac-10 8-1

Week 11, Neb. loses and drops out of the top five. Alabama moves up to #2; USC jumps OU for #3.

Week 13 (last week of regular season) - Penn State, bye; Bama beats AU; USC beats Hawaii.
1< 1 Penn State (48) Ind 11-0
2< 2 Alabama (5) SEC 10-1
3< 3 USC (3) Pac-10 11-1
4< 4 Oklahoma (3) Big 8 10-1
5< 5 Michigan Big Ten 10-1

Bowl time! January 1,1979....
#1 Penn State and #2 Alabama SEC Champs were chosen to play in the Sugar Bowl. Bama 14-7
#3 USC Pac-10 champs and #5 Big 10 co-champs played in the Rose Bowl. USC 17-10

When the dust settled, Alabama became #1 by beating the #1 undefeated Penn State on a famous "Goal Line Stand". USC jumped to #2 by beating #5 Michigan.

Final AP poll for 1978...
1< 2 Alabama (38) SEC 11-1 W 14-7 vs #1 Penn State (Sugar)
2< 3 USC (19) Pac-10 12-1 W 17-10 vs #5 Michigan (Rose)
3< 4 Oklahoma (1) Big 8 11-1 W 31-24 vs #6 Nebraska (Orange)
4< 1 Penn State Ind 11-1 L 14-7 vs #2 Alabama (Sugar)
5< 5 Michigan Big Ten 10-2

LINK ]Sports Illustrated - The Rising Of The Tide
Alabama beat Penn State 14-7 in the Sugar Bowl to lay claim to the national title



USC was awarded the UPI national championship. And USC's win over Michigan in the Rose Bowl, on tailback White's TD....

LINK ]"Phantom touchdown".... While diving toward the end zone, White was stripped of the ball by Michigan linebacker Ron Simpkins, who recovered and gained possession for the Michigan offense at its 1-yard line. Even White was surprised by the touchdown call, having thumped his fist into the turf for fumbling at such a key point in the game.


Also.....

LINK ]In the second quarter, White dove towards the Michigan goal line from the three-yard line but fumbled the ball. He hit the ground in the end zone holding nothing but air. Although a Pac-10 official correctly signaled that possession had been turned over, a Big Ten official ran onto the field and ruled the play a touchdown.

The incident has gone on to be remembered as the Phantom Touchdown. “There was no way I got that ball into the end zone,” recalls White. “But what was I supposed to do? Say to the ref, ‘Excuse me, you made a mistake?’” USC went on to win the game 17-10.

Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:02 pm to
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ONLY UNDEFEATED TEAM IN THE REGULAR SEASON ....NO POLLS TAKEN AFTER THE BOWLS IN 1966......HELLO , IS ANYBODY OUT THERE ?



So bowl game results only matter when it benefits Bama's fantasy NC total.

Gotcha.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:07 pm to
78 USC = 2011 Okie St
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:08 pm to
They are AP, UPI/Coaches, and BCS titles. No fantasy about it.
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:08 pm to
You jelly of all of Bama's Natty's?

Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:10 pm to
Bama fans are just saying the team was shafted in 66. We don't claim it. We aren't Arky fans.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:11 pm to
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They are AP, UPI/Coaches, and BCS titles


So no real NCs.

Nothing but fantasy.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:19 pm to
Then don't worry about trying to claim a piece of a fantasy title from 1964.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:20 pm to
The dynasty is gonna continue too. The next generation is here and will be ready.

(courtesy of rattlehead on the fark board)
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 12:21 pm
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:21 pm to
ummm......
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:26 pm to
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Bama fans are just saying the team was shafted in 66


They were shafted in 1966. So was Michigan State. Part of the aura of Ara is that he knew darn well who would get the votes if he tied the Spartans, so thats why he went for the tie. Hense the headline "Notre Dame beats Michigan State 10-10"
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:28 pm to
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Bama fans are just saying the team was shafted in 66


Alabama came "that" close to getting shafted in 1979,too. And,if Missouri hadn't upset Nebraska in mid-Nov of '78, Penn State would have played Nebraska in the Orange Bowl.
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:32 pm to
Before 1990, so it doesn't matter.
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:34 pm to
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Bama fans are just saying the team was shafted in 66. We don't claim it. We aren't Arky fans.

45 too.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:34 pm to
Nobody was getting it over an undefeated Army. No matter who they played. No way no how.
Posted by Alahunter
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90742 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:36 pm to
Yep. Lots of teams can say they shoulda, woulda. Or shouldn't have. Colorado 1990 comes to mind, as does BYU 1984.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:39 pm to
Calm down son
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:42 pm to
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as does BYU 1984.

beats a 6-5 Meeeshigan. Course UW only beat them by 9, so I guess good enough.
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