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re: Georgia vs Oklahoma, who wins?

Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:09 pm to
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I wonder if that's because they are in the Big XII where there are not many great rushing attacks


Did you know that OU has 5 starting running backs in the NFL right now? Iowa State has David Montgomery, a top 10 back, Ok State has Justice Hill, a top 10 back. Top 10, meaning top 10 in rushing this year.

Sorry, but if you guys would just pop your Jim Carrey heads out of the SEC butthole, you might witness good players outside of your conference.


Go look at rushing offense rankings and list the top 5 for both conferences
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:16 pm to
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Go look at rushing offense rankings and list the top 5 for both conferences


I wasn't going to go this route, but ... I tried to give them the benefit of the doubt and use S&P+ which is a little more forgiving of their run offense and defense as it puts a little more context around it... but yeah if we want to start pointing out top 10 backs and NFL players...
Posted by Sooner1984
Boone's Farm, Texas
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:18 pm to
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I gave you the actual average ratings for what they did ON THE FIELD running the ball RELATIVE to the defenses that they played. Not just looking at pure rushing yardage


WTF does this mean? You can't say the Big 12 doesn't have many great rushing attacks when two teams have top 10 rushing backs. And WTF is ON THE FIELD running the ball? Are you looking at virtual reality yards above or below the ground? Sound like somebody cracked you in the noggin.
Posted by Sooner1984
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Go look at rushing offense rankings and list the top 5 for both conferences


Nope. He said not many Big 12 teams have great rushing attacks. That's false. Your top 5 is because you don't throw it much.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:29 pm to
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WTF does this mean? You can't say the Big 12 doesn't have many great rushing attacks when two teams have top 10 rushing backs. And WTF is ON THE FIELD running the ball? Are you looking at virtual reality yards above or below the ground? Sound like somebody cracked you in the noggin.


Apparently, reading is hard. Stick with dj's approach above... it's much simpler and doesn't require you to do anything but look for team names that you're familiar with. Hell... I'll do it for you.

Top 5 TEAM RUSHING conference comparison:

SEC:
10 Alabama
11 Georgia
14 Mississippi State
22 Auburn
30 LSU

Big XII:
27 Oklahoma
42 Kansas State
48 Oklahoma State
42 TCU
72 West Virginia
(The rest were all lower than 100)

Or in other words, your team didn't play a game this season against a single team that would have rated top 5 in the SEC.

Meanwhile, UGA played 2 of our top 5 teams in the conference, and added 2 more top 10 overall rushing teams nationally in Ga Tech and Notre Dame. Also, our season opener was against Appalachian State... they ranked one spot behind none other than Oklahoma at 28th.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:29 pm to
The point went way over your head. Go back and quote it but this time quote the whole point rather than taking one sentence from the point out of context.

The big 12 rushing offense ranks are low. Iowa state is 114th and okie state is 48th. Those are not great ranks.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:29 pm to
you frick tard, look at the timestamp, it was edited 20 minutes before you posted.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:30 pm to
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Nope. He said not many Big 12 teams have great rushing attacks. That's false. Your top 5 is because you don't throw it much.


Did I say they don't have great "running backs" or "rushing attacks"? I'm really struggling to figure out where it is that you think this is going.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:30 pm to
you frick tard, look at the timestamp, it was edited 20 minutes before you posted.

you cant make up stupid like this. I apologize to the rest of the fan base for this idiot.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22847 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:31 pm to
Why does everyone think this game will be played into the 30s. Winning team has 24-21 points.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:31 pm to
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you frick tard, look at the timestamp, it was edited 20 minutes before you posted.


I'm aware of *when* you edited it. It doesn't change that I read your post *prior* to you editing it and elected not to comment. Then, when there was confusion around the comment that ANOTHER poster made, I clarified. I had no need or desire to go back and read your initial comment, nor does it invalidate why he posted what he did. Jesus christ man... be a better poster.

ETA... did you really post that comment twice, and add in an extra line? As though it somehow made you look smarter? I have neither the interest nor inclination to continue this discussion... just know... that when people on these boards talk about shitty UGA posters... you're included in the group. Apologizing for someone who was already having to apologize for your incompetency is a very strange tactic.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:17 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Nope. He said not many Big 12 teams have great rushing attacks. That's false. Your top 5 is because you don't throw it much.


You think Iowa state, the 114th ranked rushing offense, is a great rushing attack. It's one of the dumbest points I have ever seen.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
1749 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Florida won those games because Tennessee couldn't run the ball at all. Oklahoma's offense is really good but they're absolutely unstoppable when they get Anderson and Sermon going.


Precisely. This has always been the case and Kirby knows that. You run the ball, stop the run, and you win.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:58 pm to
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Iowa State has David Montgomery, a top 10 back, Ok State has Justice Hill, a top 10 back. Top 10, meaning top 10 in rushing this year.


no, they aren't!

Hill is #17 and Montgomery is #35!
Where are you getting your information from? or are you just counting on us not checking into what you are saying?
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Sorry, but if you guys would just pop your Jim Carrey heads out of the SEC butthole, you might witness good players outside of your conference.

Perhaps you should pop your head out? Dude. How can one person be so wrong about everything in one post?

I will say that Oklahoma puts out some very good RB's. They just aren't at Oklahoma right now.
Oklahoma's best RB right now is #57.
By the way....our second RB(Sony Michel at #58) is one spot below your top running back and he has 12 yards fewer than your #1.

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Oh, and Michel has 31 fewer carries than Anderson.

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Edited to remove unproven and possibly incorrect assumptions.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:13 pm to
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Oklahoma's best RB right now is #57. Is he going to play? Or are you guys going to sweep his transgressions under the rug like you did with Mixon?


I'm all for railing on this idiot, but probably no need to go here. At this point, the evidence really doesn't support the claims. Declined invitations to spend time with her and the RO was pursued nearly a month after the supposed situation occurred because the victim stated "I remember feeling like I couldn’t get away. He knows where I live and I’m scared for my safety." (keep in mind that the alleged incident involved unwanted "hand stuff" to begin with...)

He's since passed a 3 hour polygraph which is inadmissible in court but can be used when determining whether to file charges or not.

It's not a good look, and assuming the claim is false (which it appears to be at present), it's 10 steps in the wrong direction for actual victims.
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:29 pm to
Rodney Anderson is as good or better than most SEC starting running backs. He is going to be a NFL starter as well. You can not find a weak spot on OUs offense. We have 4 elite backs....only 2 play most of the time but all 4 have contributed and its not because one hasn't stood out. Its because all 4 of them have earned carries. One thing you will find out fast is talent on the offensive side of the ball isn't lacking at any position. Defense we are weak at LB and DL imo. Corners have up and down games but since the freshman have been playing they have held their own. I give you all the defensive lack of talent talk but don't talk about OUs offensive lack of talent because its just not true.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:40 pm to
Didn't know all of this. I'll edit my post and delete what was directed about him. Thanks for clarifying.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:42 pm to
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Didn't know all of this. I'll edit my post and delete what was directed about him. Thanks for clarifying.


All good bud. I know you as a poster, so I assumed it was simply something you hadn't heard yet. Can delete my comments if you prefer, though it will make this line of comments very odd and out of context. You tell me.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Rodney Anderson is as good or better than most SEC starting running backs.

Name the 7 starting running backs that he is better than in the SEC. I'm not disagreeing that he's a talented back, but legitimately... if you're going to make the statement, back it up.

I don't think anyone has said you lack *talent* at the running back position (or offense in general) to begin with. Any discussion of rushing attacks in this thread has been in regards to the teams that you play and their overall lack of commitment to doing so.

As to the 4 "elite backs" comment, please list all of them. I am assuming you're counting Anderson and Sermon (not elite, but very good... had offer from UGA would have been our third choice in his recruiting class). Who else is elite?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:49 pm to
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Rodney Anderson is as good or better than most SEC starting running backs.


Maybe, but he, nor the other two RB's mentioned are Top 10 backs like it was said.
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You can not find a weak spot on OUs offense.

I'm not looking for one. most of us understand that Oklahoma will score points. Why you guys want to defend your offense is beyond me. We all know Oklahoma has a high powered offense.

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We have 4 elite backs....only 2 play most of the time but all 4 have contributed and its not because one hasn't stood out.

Ok. Let me say this, then. Chubb, Michel, Swift, Holyfield, Herrien. As a group they are without a doubt better than your group. You guys act like Nick Chubb is out only back, so read my post again. Our #2 running back had 31 carries fewer than your #1 and he had 12 yards less.

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Defense we are weak at LB and DL imo.

I've actually heard some good things about your DL.

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I give you all the defensive lack of talent talk but don't talk about OUs offensive lack of talent because its just not true.

I certainly never said Oklahoma is lacking in offensive talent. Your passing game is much better than ours (even though ours is better than many give credit) and I would say our running backs are much better than yous (Although, your RB's are probably better than many give credit to) I am fully aware of Oklahoma's success in the recent past with running backs. I also know that Georgia recruited Sermon.

I am a little chippy because we have had a couple of Oklahoma posters come on here acting like it would be a 40-0 beat down in Oklahoma's favor.
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