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re: Georgia seniors DT Julian Rochester and WR Demetris Robertson will return in 2021

Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:30 am to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:30 am to
UGA attempts
2019 415 14 games 29 attempts
2018 356 14 games 25 attempts
2017 305 15 games 20 attempts
2016 386 13 games 29 attempts
2015 327 13 games 25 attempts
2014 322 13 games 24 attempts
2013 459 13 games 35 attempts
2012 399 14 games 28 attempts
2011 434 14 games 31 attempts
2010 359 13 games 27 attempts
2009 346 13 games 26 attempts


UGA barely averaged 27 attempts a game and at 65% completion rate that’s 16 completed passes a game.
How many 4-5* QBs and WRs has UGA had that just didn’t get utilized? Imagine if AJ Green didn’t skew those stats? Again why would a good QB or WR want go there? 3 WRs, a TE, and a RB splitting 16 completions a game before anyone comes off the bench.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:41 am to
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Again


I guess I need to post these Again since you avoided them the first times? Try to respond to actual points going forward......

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Fact is, He transferred in 2018 when our receiving options were very strong and experienced.


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He was our #3 in 2019, and that was with a struggling Fromm holding him back, so he clearly didn’t forget how to play.


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Highly rated guys like Jermaine burton and George Pickens racked up the yards when JTD started. Here is an exercise for you: Multiply those stats over 13-14 games, and blow your mind.

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:58 am to
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Highly rated guys like Jermaine burton and George Pickens racked up the yards when JTD started. Here is an exercise for you: Multiply those stats over 13-14 games, and blow your mind.






Well, you should know it doesn't work that way. The law of match-ups won't allow it. Daniels hasn't been schemed against in the meat of the SEC. Georgia doesn't have a clue who they are yet, or what they do best when it's the hardest. Like everyone else, the new season will be evolving one game at a time.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:05 am to
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Well, you should know it doesn't work that way


That wasn’t the point of the exercise, which gives a general idea of what uga’s passing game would look like with a qb like JTD.

Point is, It was clearly different from the Fromm era, which isn’t good for smokeyone.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:07 am to
JT Daniels has a years stats in 2018. 60% completion rate 363 attempts 2,762 yards.

They guy that beat him out as the starter had 392 attempts, 72% completion with twice as many TDS and fewer ints. And in 2 more games than Daniels he had 264 attempts 67% completion rate. And did it against better competition than Daniels.

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:22 am to
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That wasn’t the point of the exercise, which gives a general idea of what uga’s passing game would look like with a qb like JTD.

Point is, It was clearly different from the Fromm era, which isn’t good for smokeyone.


What has Georgia been running that has been good for Tennessee? This is a classic LSU syndrome. Can't wait to airmail it and join the new age offenses in the SEC. Then their one proud defense started leaking, badly. Then they struggled to run the ball downhill. You just saw a proud DBU and their so-called best DB, Stingley, go belly up time after time and they are just in year 2 of the great airmail experiment.

Everything is a tradeoff. I watched a game QBed by Daniels and you couldn't run the ball, at all. I saw your defense uncharacteristically struggling to protect the endzone. And do you think you could have underwhelmed Cincy anymore just running a Jake Fromm offensive scheme?

How many tradeoffs will go into the new Dawgs offense this season to watch that ball in the air? Answer: Depends on how often you are determined to throw it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:38 am to
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JT Daniels has a years stats in 2018. 60% completion rate 363 attempts 2,762 yards.


You can’t even keep track of your rambling flames. You specifically mentioned this:

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Even with Monkens “air raid


Which renders 2018 at USC irrelevant.

In the matter of relevance, we will Focus on how he did in the monken offense. You still need to provide the home work exercise you were assigned. Show your work if you want full credit.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15957 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:52 am to
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Which renders 2018 at USC irrelevant.

In the matter of relevance, we will Focus on how he did in the monken offense. You still need to provide the home work exercise you were assigned. Show your work if you want full credit.


Only if don’t look at 2019 USC or 2017 USC. When you look at 2017, 2018, 2019 USC O you see Daniels year as a starter is by far the worst. So system doesn’t seem to be the issue.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:57 am to
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Only if don’t look at 2019 USC or 2017 USC


All that matters in a discussion about monken’s offense at uga is what happened for uga 2020.

Now it’s time for you to turn in your homework assignment. If you need assistance, feel free to ask questions during office hours.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:55 am to
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T Daniels has a years stats in 2018. 60% completion rate 363 attempts 2,762 yards.


Pretty good for a 17 year old who played 3 years of HS ball..
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:00 pm to
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Everything is a tradeoff. I watched a game QBed by Daniels and you couldn't run the ball, at all. I saw your defense uncharacteristically struggling to protect the endzone. And do you think you could have underwhelmed Cincy anymore just running a Jake Fromm offensive scheme?


It was nice having an offense that could run or throw depending on what was open. I watched two other games QBd (of 4 total) by JTD where we ran for over 300 and 7 per carry.

I expect big struggles on defense this year with all the losses in the secondary. I expect us to score more with all the returning players on offense. I don’t care how we win
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 2:58 pm to
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I watched two other games where we ran for over 300 and 7 per carry

7 YPC, seriously? Dayum.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15957 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Pretty good for a 17 year old who played 3 years of HS ball..


Look at USC 2017 and 2019 in that offense.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 3:59 pm to
No need to look at irrelevant stuff like that.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15957 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:32 pm to
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No need to look at irrelevant stuff like that.


You mean looking at USC 2017, 2018, 2019 and seeing that one of those years was not like the other, one of the 3 was just not the same? And reason was Daniels?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:38 pm to
What does that have to do with the monken O at uga? Nothing at all. Try to learn what is relevant in a discussion and what isn’t.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 4:42 pm to
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7 YPC, seriously? Dayum


Well it was Mizzou and SC so..maybe fools gold. Run game ain’t looked right last two years, imo.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15957 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:02 pm to
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What does that have to do with the monken O at uga? Nothing at all. Try to learn what is relevant in a discussion and what isn’t.



In a high power pass centric O that USC ran the year before and 2 years after Daniels with different QB and WRs they put up very good numbers. When Daniels ran it he put up UGA type numbers. Looks like he was the variable that failed.

And has Monken even established a system yet? I mean this will be the longest he’s every called plays at an institution if he does finish his second year at UGA. Hard for a journeyman WR coach to really have a system.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 5:13 pm to
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When Daniels ran it he put up UGA type numbers.


What about when he ran the uga offense?

You still haven’t done your homework.

300 yards a game would lead to how many yards over a 13 game season?

300 x 13 = ____ ?

(You can use a calculator)
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15957 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 7:02 pm to
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What about when he ran the uga offense?

You still haven’t done your homework.


Do you feel he will play 3 Ds of that caliber over a 12 game season? You shouldn’t. We have a full season sample size in a better more QB friendly O (an actual established one with other QBs in the system to compare him against) and he was found lacking. In three SEC games he’s played he has stat lines of
Comp Att Yards Comp %
16 27 299 59.3
10 16 139 62.5
28 38 401 73.7

1 good game, 1 average game, and 1 sorry game. All 3 against pretty bad Ds.
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