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Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:56 am to DawgsLife
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Can you show me a team that has had a #1 class that has not been a contender? (Also, to clarify, define what you mean by contender as it seems everybody has a different definition)
That's almost like using the transitive property. Georgia's issue is they will more than likely have to beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game to be considered a contender for the National Championship (The odds of getting two SEC teams in on a normal year are slim to none). You will not beat Bama on talent alone, it doesn't matter how many #1 classes you have.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:59 am to Mobtro
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#1 recruiting class doesn't translate into a National Championship contender
No but consecutive top 5 classes over a 4 year span gives your team much better odds
Once again
As my colleague Bill Connelly has said, winning in college football takes talent acquisition, development, and deployment. I agree. But Gene Chizik has a national title, while Mark Dantonio and Gary Patterson do not; acquisition is by far the most important element. By NCAA rule, coaches get just 20 hours per week with their players. Only so much development can be done
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Don't use Bama as your example, we're an anomaly.
Not its not and Bama is the perfect example
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:00 am to Razor Dawg
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Not its not and Bama is the perfect example
We have Nick Saban.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:00 am to DawgsLife
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Can you show me a team that has had a #1 class that has not been a contender?
UTexas comes to mind......
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:00 am to Mobtro
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You will not beat Bama on talent alone, it doesn't matter how many #1 classes you have.
For fricks sake. No one is saying that.
What UGA is doing is getting their talent level more in range of where Bama is, giving UGA a better athletic matchups. You obviously still have to go out and develop, scheme, etc.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:01 am to Mobtro
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We have Nick Saban.
And the most 4 and 5 stars in the country and have for some time
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:02 am to DawgsLife
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We are closing the gap but it's gonna take at least 2 more classes in 19/20.
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Exactly this. It takes more than two classes to close the gap Alabama has created. Alabama has excelled in almost every facet of the game.
I don't agree. Ole Miss beat them with the class they pulled in that year, and again the next year.
Clemson's last 5 classes were rated 15, 16, 9, 11, and 16
Ohio St's last 5 classes were rated 18,6, 5 ,2 and 5.
Going into 2018 the Dawgs last 5 classes rated 8, 6, 6, 3, 1. I agree a great recruiting closes the talent gap, but coaching plays the biggest part in player development,and 2017 show the world the Dawgs have some dam good coaches. The Dawgs have the talent and coaching to win it all in 2018.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:03 am to Crowknowsbest
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For fricks sake. No one is saying that.
I'm just telling you why a #1 recruiting class doesn't translate into a National Championship contender. Specifically for UGA.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:04 am to TideFaninFl
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UTexas comes to mind......
Won a title in the mid 2000s behind 5* Vince Young. Rode multiple top classes to another NC appearance, losing to another power recruiter in Alabama. Hasn't recruited at a high level since 2012, and has fallen off the map.
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:04 am to TideFaninFl
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Can you show me a team that has had a #1 class that has not been a contender?
UTexas comes to mind......
They used a #1 class to win it all in 2005.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:05 am to Mobtro
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I'm just telling you why a #1 recruiting class doesn't translate into a National Championship contender.
Almost always does. Very few exceptions over the last 15 years.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:06 am to Crowknowsbest
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SECRant definition of contender: team that won national championship in blowout fashion. Nothing less.
Well, I've definitely seen that definition!
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:06 am to Razor Dawg
"There are certainly some dipshits who probably would have been better served to take a shite on their keyboards instead of typing up their "thoughts"
This right here is FUNNY and probably a correct assessment of the average "ranters" contributions!
This right here is FUNNY and probably a correct assessment of the average "ranters" contributions!
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:06 am to Mobtro
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I'm just telling you why a #1 recruiting class doesn't translate into a National Championship contender. Specifically for UGA.
I know it seems batshit crazy, but Alabama isn't some unbeatable team.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:07 am to DawgRff
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don't agree.
No one is saying they can't be beat. We are saying our talent level isn't on their level now. Their 2015 and 2016 classes give them a clear advantage.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:07 am to Mobtro
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Georgia's issue is they will more than likely have to beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game to be considered a contender for the National Championship
We all know that. Bama has the most talented top to bottom team and has for a while, so doesn't it make sense our odds will improve with a better roster than we're used to?
In 2015 we went 10-3 so could be considered a "good team" (although we were very mediocre). When we played bama that year we got clobbered and it wasn't really as close as the score would indicate. Fast forward just TWO years and when we met bama again we lost by 3 in overtime. The difference (besides an upgrade in coaching obviously) was that there isn't a single position group in 2017 that wasn't better (from slightly to incredibly) than the 2015 version.
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You will not beat Bama on talent alone,
no shite, but having a team full of 5* would make winning easier than a team full of 3* no?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:09 am to Mobtro
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telling you why a #1 recruiting class doesn't translate into a National Championship contender. Specifically for UGA.
It does translate if the recruits are properly developed and unleashed
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:10 am to Mobtro
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I'm just telling you why a #1 recruiting class doesn't translate into a National Championship contender.
You're not really saying anything of value though. No recruiting class ranking is going to AUTOMATICALLY translate into ANYTHING.
But ffs we just went to the national title game last year and added one of the best recruiting classes ever to the roster, does that not seem like we are setting ourselves up well going forward?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:10 am to TrendingRight
Georgia hasn't won a NC since 1980. They are not used to "being there" and it shows. Completely clueless fan base as to the working of the College Football Playoff.
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