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re: Georgia lost. Some of you forgot.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:13 am to BhamDore
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:13 am to BhamDore
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Alabama has not had some huge talent advantage over LSU, Florida, or Georgia
IS this a joke?
The difference between #1 and #5 is huge most years.
Bama has great coaches, but talent has always been the difference maker
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:14 am to BhamDore
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Alabama has not had some huge talent advantage over LSU, Florida, or Georgia.
Factually incorrect claim.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:15 am to DawgsLife
Was responding to the thread starter. The idea that recruiting doesn't really matter is funny considering that in the time that Alabama has won 5 titles they have finished no worse than 3rd and most of the time first. Indeed it takes good coaching, but I think, as far as UGA is concerned, that was proven this year. Alabama had the best roster in 2017, they should have won it all.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:16 am to Tuscaloosa
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Bama’s 2017 class also included a kicker and a long snapper, which obviously dropped the average considerably.
And Georgia signed a Kicker/Punter.(Camarda)
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No ranking system has ever used the average player rating to rank recruiting classes.
I don't think I would make a blanket statement like that, but you might be right. It certainly does point out the quality of the recruits, though, does it not?
quote:Yeah, I saw that. I don't understand how that happened. Mistake, maybe? I mean, we signed the same number of recruits and we came out with a higher total score....so how does their players have a high rating? I would think that is mathematically impossible. However, that is what is says. So, does that mean we are both wrong?
If you want to do that, then OSU’s class is better than UGA’s.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:16 am to Sandwich
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This matters....quit trying to act like it doesn't.
Hell yeah it matters, but not in the way you think it does.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:16 am to TrendingRight
Zebras too care of what bammer could not-which is won that game, only way we lost is because of forces not in our control, ie the officiating crew
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:18 am to BhamDore
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Professional NFL scouts that have 3 or 4 years worth of high level game tape, and that can visit practice get it wrong all the time.
entertainment. You just rank the kids based off their offers and where they are from.
All the research proves you to be wrong. NFL draft follows the rankings pretty well. A higher % of 5 stars get picked than 4 stars. Same goes with 4 stars vs 3 stars.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:19 am to Razor Dawg
Those kids are ranked mostly on what schools or coaches are recruiting them.
If a kid has offers from big time programs he has a better chance of being "ranked" higher than a kid with offers from TCU, Wisconsin, or Mississippi State.
It's no secret that the best players go to BIG programs . There is still no way properly rank those kids.
Kids are also ranked based on where they are from. Do you really believe Louisiana has the #1 5 star Wr in the country every year?
If a kid has offers from big time programs he has a better chance of being "ranked" higher than a kid with offers from TCU, Wisconsin, or Mississippi State.
It's no secret that the best players go to BIG programs . There is still no way properly rank those kids.
Kids are also ranked based on where they are from. Do you really believe Louisiana has the #1 5 star Wr in the country every year?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:20 am to BhamDore
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Alabama wins because they had by far the best coaching staff in college football. Alabama has not had some huge talent advantage over LSU, Florida, or Georgia.
Recruiting rankings say otherwise. Do you think it is a coincidence that almost every single National Championship team of the last 15-20 years has had top rated classes? I mean we have seen coaches that have won National Championships go to other schools that historically do not recruit well, and they fall flat.
Jackie Sherril, for one, but there are many other examples. Now, I will give you this....an excellent coach...a really, really good coach can take lesser players and get top shelf results, but rarely can they win national Championships with it. Show me one school in the last 20 years that has not recruited well that has won a National Championship.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:20 am to Tuscaloosa
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Hell yeah it matters, but not in the way you think it does.
Had we signed three more players we would have taken the crown...why is that so hard to comprehend?
Please tell me what WAY I am thinking
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:21 am to DawgsLife
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And Georgia signed a Kicker/Punter.(Camarda)
But you didn’t sign a long snapper, who although was among the best at his position, dropped our average pretty heavily. Take out that one player and our average jumps up to 94.3.
We were essentially punished for signing a player who was ranked in the Top 3 in the country at his position.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 8:23 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:21 am to DaWGfan01
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Zebras too care of what bammer could not-which is won that game, only way we lost is because of forces not in our control, ie the officiating crew
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:22 am to djsdawg
The research says that recruiting rankings are close to 20% accurate. That's awfully low to put so much stock in.
Recruiting rankings create false expectations and get coaches fired. They also create a false perception and get teams ranked high in pre-season for no other reason.
They are honestly bad for college football.
Recruiting rankings create false expectations and get coaches fired. They also create a false perception and get teams ranked high in pre-season for no other reason.
They are honestly bad for college football.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:22 am to Sandwich
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Had we signed three more players we would have taken the crown...
But you didn’t. So you didn’t. And if one of those players had been a long snapper, you really wouldn’t have.
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why is that so hard to comprehend?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:22 am to Tuscaloosa
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Better than any Bama class since the 2017 one.
I think everyone in the world would take Georgia's last two classes over Bama's last two classes. Bama had a great 17 class, but if you have to take Bama's 18 class with it? No thanks. Georgia will clearly have a more talented roster than Alabama this time next year.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:23 am to koreandawg
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Was responding to the thread starter. T
You hit the replay button to TideFannin. That's what confused me. You either need to be careful who you hit the replay button to, or include the quote you are responding to. We have those two ways of know who you are talking to.
(Not trying to chastise you...just trying to help a new poster out to avoid confusion)
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:24 am to TeLeFaWx
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Georgia will clearly have a more talented roster than Alabama this time next year.
Bama had signed 7 consecutive top ranked recruiting classes, and this year’s recruiting class had an average player rating that is better than several of those number one classes. Please explain your logic.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:24 am to TeLeFaWx
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Georgia will clearly have a more talented roster than Alabama this time next year.
We are closing the gap but it's gonna take at least 2 more classes in 19/20. Bama had a major talent advantage. Folks don't realize how big it has been for them.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:26 am to Tuscaloosa
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But you didn’t. So you didn’t. And if one of those players had been a long snapper, you really wouldn’t have.
However, if we had taken one LS and two 3* we would have.(Not far fetched since we turned a 4* away on signing day....or so we were told) Was you class higher rated by numbers? yes. Was it a higher quality class? No.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:27 am to djsdawg
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Georgia will clearly have a more talented roster than Alabama this time next year.
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We are closing the gap but it's gonna take at least 2 more classes in 19/20.
Exactly this. It takes more than two classes to close the gap Alabama has created. Alabama has excelled in almost every facet of the game.
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