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re: Georgia fans, what the hell is this?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:10 pm to DawgCountry
Posted on 5/8/20 at 2:10 pm to DawgCountry
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Why do you struggle spelling Kirby so much? You got 2 different names in your little diatribe
I don't struggle spelling his name, his name lends itself to all sorts of phonetic derivatives, for example:
Kirby
Kurby
Kerby
Kirbee
Kurbee
Kerbee
When you read the various phonetic spellings, it functions the same and doesn't change anything material when you read what I wrote
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:37 pm to The Egg
That's why Smart will never win it all.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:50 pm to The Egg
Smart????? That was much dumber than anything that Mark Richt ever did. I forgive. Kirby will learn.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 3:55 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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What an anti-player player hater you are, no way does Fields get any blame
The play was doomed from the start and Kurby tipped his hand by putting the backup QB as the upback in Punt Formation after never using Fields in that role all season
The only way for that play to succeed is to catch the defense expecting a punt and snapping the ball before they see the ruse and adjust. For some reason Fields did not call for the snap quickly and Bama adjusted. Game over.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:00 pm to AlaCowboy
I disagree.
It is swift against air if the defense doesn't react.
Swift 1 in 1 versus a linebacker if the defense picks up on Fields as the upback.
I would take those odds. Fields doesn't give the pass play a chance. He immediately scrambles left on the snap (swift is on the right). He crapped the play before it ever had a chance to get Swift a cut or to receive a PI call.
It is swift against air if the defense doesn't react.
Swift 1 in 1 versus a linebacker if the defense picks up on Fields as the upback.
I would take those odds. Fields doesn't give the pass play a chance. He immediately scrambles left on the snap (swift is on the right). He crapped the play before it ever had a chance to get Swift a cut or to receive a PI call.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:04 pm to The Egg
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Georgia fans, what the hell is this?
LINK
Even dumbass Gary couldn't understand it
Probably one of the reasons we went with Fromm and not Fields the next year. But that's a story for another lame arse post.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 4:19 pm to AlaCowboy
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The only way for that play to succeed is to catch the defense expecting a punt and snapping the ball before they see the ruse and adjust. For some reason Fields did not call for the snap quickly and Bama adjusted. Game over.
You also have to wait for everyone to get set for 1 count to avoid a penalty from the pro Bama Refs
Wasn't that the Game where a DL pushed down on Fromm's head after a Tackle where he was already down in front of the White Hat Official that ignored what he saw?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:46 pm to meansonny
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swift against air if the defense doesn't react.
There is no video that supports this claim that the play was wide open and fields waited too late. I doubt it took bama long to react to a qb coming in for a punt.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:10 pm to djsdawg
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There is no video that supports this claim that the play was wide open and fields waited too late. I doubt it took bama long to react to a qb coming in for a punt.
Every angle I've seen of that play there was confusion from the outside Receivers on that play, they loafed off of the LoS like it was a designed run play, on a normal pass play Receivers sprint off the LoS to at least occupy 1 or 2 defenders if the ball isn't coming to them, it was if the Receivers hadn't practiced that play and didn't know what route to run
Those with the "blame Fields" responses simply have a pro-Kurby agenda and an anti-Fields agenda
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:01 pm to djsdawg
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There is no video that supports this claim that the play was wide open and fields waited too late. I doubt it took bama long to react to a qb coming in for a punt.
Reading is fundamental.
In 2012 SECCG, bama didn't react and the pass was complete to a wide open target.
In 2018, Bama was in the same punt safe defense. But they did react. That leaves Swift in man to man coverage against a linebacker (reacting late). I'd still take my odds by throwing that pass.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:38 pm to meansonny
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In 2012 SECCG, bama didn't react and the pass was complete to a wide open target.
In 2018, Bama was in the same punt safe defense. But they did react. That leaves Swift in man to man coverage against a linebacker (reacting late). I'd still take my odds by throwing that pass.
Bama didnt react in 2012 because we didnt give them any reason to do so. Richt wasnt dumb enough to replace the normal upback with a backup QB, which made a fake way too obvious. It also wasnt the same safe punt defense as there was an extra LB involved this time.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:17 pm to djsdawg
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Bama didnt react in 2012 because we didnt give them any reason to do so
In the SECCG, I'd rather an important throw to come from my QB. I don't mind fields being out there.
People are too hung up on the "fake". Again, 5 star fields throwing to our best player... I can live and die with that play. He's got to throw the ball, though.
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It also wasnt the same safe punt defense as there was an extra LB involved this time.
A safe punt defense is a formation.
They were in the formation. And in both 2012 and 2018, it was a linebacker in coverage over that slot. The personnel doesn't change the flaw in the formation.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:30 pm to The Egg
Still, nothing beats Alabama’s desperate fake field goal, when Clemson obviously lined up prepared for a fake.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:34 pm to meansonny
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In the SECCG, I'd rather an important throw to come from my QB. I don't mind fields being out there.
People are too hung up on the "fake". Again, 5 star fields throwing to our best player... I can live and die with that play. He's got to throw the ball, though.
If you want a QB making a key 4th down pass, leave Fromm out there and go for it. Fakes work because of the element of surprise. Inserting a QB as an upback removes that key element.
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A safe punt defense is a formation.
They were in the formation. And in both 2012 and 2018, it was a linebacker in coverage over that slot. The personnel doesn't change the flaw in the formation.
Are you trying to claim every single safe punt D formation is exactly the same set up? Thats absurd. Bama had 2 down linemen in 2018 instead of 3 like in 2012. They added in a LB to cover the guy who caught the open pass in 2012.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:55 pm to djsdawg
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Are you trying to claim every single safe punt D formation is exactly the same set up
Jesus. I'm trying to keep this as simple as possible.
2012 SECCG and 2018 SECCG... those were the same safe punt defense formations. No, those are not the only safe punt defense formations. But those 2 games with those 2 plays... the exact same formation.
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They added in a LB to cover the guy who caught the open pass in 2012.
In 2012, Xavier Dickson was lined up over the slot (Sanders commings) and Trey Depriest would have been the one to pick him up in coverage. Both are libebackers. Bama could have added another linebacker. I don't know. But it wouldn't have changed who would be responsible for Swift on a fake.
I feel like you don't know what play we are referencing in 2012.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:05 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:12 pm to meansonny
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But those 2 games with those 2 plays... the exact same formation.
2 down linemen is not the same as 3 down linemen. Thats actually a very distinct difference.
2012: 2 edge, 3 down, 2 LB
2018: 2 edge, 2 down, 3 LB
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In 2012, Xavier Dickson was lined up over the slot (Sanders commings) and Trey Depriest would have been the one to pick him up in coverage. Both are libebackers. Bama could have added another linebacker. I don't know. But it wouldn't have changed who would be responsible for Swift on a fake.
Bama did add another LB, which covered up the slot, who was wide open in 2012.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:13 pm to bigdawg7780
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Should have let Charlie throw it
I would have been happy if Fields let it go. But yeah. You cant get a completion if you are too afraid to throw the ball.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:15 pm to djsdawg
Why don't you look at big dawgs link and tell me who you think is a down lineman. Those are linebackers on Commings (the one lined up over him, the one in the middle and slow to react, and the one outside who makes the tackle)
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:19 pm to meansonny
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Why don't you look at big dawgs link and tell me who you think is a down lineman.
The only 3 guys with their hands on the ground.
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the one lined up over him, the one in the middle and slow to react
There is an extra guy there in 2018. He is between the one in the middle and the edge guy lined up over him.
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