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re: Georgia fans: thoughts on the Oregon game.

Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Weren't you just talking about injuries for Oregon being the cause of some of their losses?


Pretty ridiculous to call someone out for excuse making soon after personally making similar excuses.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Pretty ridiculous to call someone out for excuse making soon after personally making similar excuses.


My argument was that first games tend to minimize the effect of a talent gap more than other games. Then the excuses came for why the game was closer than it should be against Clemson. Those excuses are exactly why 1st games can be treacherous. They were pretty bad too.


Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:47 pm to
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Or does it favor the team that isn’t installing a new O and new D in a road environment with a new qb and head coach?


If your offense comes out rusty and our offense comes out rusty, it's better for Oregon. It lowers the potential scoring gap.

Again, I am spotting Georgia 15 points. Calm down.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 2:56 pm
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:49 pm to
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I fully expect UGA to dominate the line of scrimmage and be able to run the ball at will. UGA's depth should shine. Defense may not have names you know but there will be a huge talent gap and a lot of experience will on the field that I fully expect to cause Oregon problems. I think this game could look like last years Michigan game.



^

Easy clap first game.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:49 pm to
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Lanning is a stud. You got a good one. I think UGA wins but really excited about the game.


I am starting to think the same thing about Lanning.

He just ended 2022 recruiting cycle with a 5 star and mid 4 star in April. He saved the class after it imploded with Cristobal leaving.

Yeah, UGA is going to win. It will be fun to see how it plays out though.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:57 pm to
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I am starting to think the same thing about Lanning.


He was a good hire. Lanning is going to put in a culture of toughness that Oregon has been missing for awhile. It'll take a few years to get his recruits in to do it.

When I say culture of toughness, I mean that I think Oregon has been soft for a long time. He is going to purge that out of the program. There will be no more guys like Thibodeaux who give less than zero effort and don't care about their team's results.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:59 pm to
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Then the excuses came for why the game was closer than it should be against Clemson.


The only reason that game was close is because Georgia played like shite on offense. There was a missed FG and the last drive would have ended up in the end zone if Georgia wanted to keep pushing it, but the offense was brutal that night. I expect the offense to be significantly better out of the gate because I think the OL will be settled.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:00 pm to
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He’s a top 5 QB in QBR and pass efficiency. He was the offensive MVP of the NC game and threw for 537 yards, 5 TDs and no INTs in the college football playoffs. Bennett is an absolute stud college QB.


He’s Kellen Moore.

Based on style of offense and style of QB, i strongly disagree.

Based on being a college QB reaching his limits in college, i can see the comparison. But Moore is still a much better pro prospect based on physical traits.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:01 pm to
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When I say culture of toughness, I mean that I think Oregon has been soft for a long time. He is going to purge that out of the program. There will be no more guys like Thibodeaux who give less than zero effort and don't care about their team's results.


Thibodeaux was a class act and played when he shouldn’t.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:04 pm to
There’s some rumors that Ty Thompson may portal. There’s a lot of murmurs that Butterfield is besting him.

I have mainly heard good things about Nix.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
I have similar concerns with Thibodeaux as I do with Stingley. Absurdly talented guys but their effort was extremely questionable. If they stopped trying before they get NFL contracts, I don't expect them to suddenly start trying again AFTER they reach their goal.
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:09 pm to
Who said he stopped trying?
Posted by armtackledawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:10 pm to
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I have mainly heard good things about Nix.


Nix is actually a pretty good QB. He had terrible coaching at Auburn.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:14 pm to
Every scouting report about him lists concerns about effort/toughness. He should have feasted against the bad offensive lines in the Pac 12 but he didn't.

Daniel Jeremiah has written about it and mentioned it multiple times in his Move The Sticks podcast. Agree or not, the concerns about Thibodeaux's effort are out there.

He compared himself to Clowney, who had similar concerns. He also has openly talked about "building his brand," which is a massive red flag to me.

Give Lanning 3 years to fully get his program in place and I think you'll be very happy with the results. I just don't think it'll be there yet when the opener rolls around.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by bisonduck
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Every scouting report about him lists concerns about effort/toughness. He should have feasted against the bad offensive lines in the Pac 12 but he didn't. Daniel Jeremiah has written about it and mentioned it multiple times in his Move The Sticks podcast. Agree or not, the concerns about Thibodeaux's effort are out there. He compared himself to Clowney, who had similar concerns. He also has openly talked about "building his brand," which is a massive red flag to me. Give Lanning 3 years to fully get his program in place and I think you'll be very happy with the results. I just don't think it'll be there yet when the opener rolls around.


Thibodeaux came in and worked his arse off. He also had a limited rep count because he was trying to play through a high ankle sprain all of last year. Also, WSU, Oregon State, UW and Stanford have developed OL pretty well over the years. He’s faced multiple first rounders in his tenure at Oregon.

This is just pre-draft bullshite noise. It’s the same as Herbert not being a leader or Sewell needing to increase his strength (good lord on that one). Thibodeaux will be a great pro. He had to deal with the PAC 12 COVID year and now a high ankle sprain. He’s just getting started.

Also, the recurring theme with Lanning is he’s made football fun again. This team doesn’t need more toughness. Cristobal sucked the life out of the team.

This last year he was constantly pissed off.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:34 pm to
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This team doesn’t need more toughness. 


If Lanning is like Kirby, practices will only get tougher.

We have the walking dead constantly on our sidelines due to practice injuries.
It definitely takes its toll on the players health.

UGA practice is not for your normal college football athlete. They have to be a little crazy and want to mix it up good on good every day.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:36 pm to
They just went from a Saban guy to a Kirby guy, so I'm guessing the physical nature of the program won't change a ton (aka be more physical than pretty much anywhere else in the country).
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:38 pm to
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This is just pre-draft bullshite noise. It’s the same as Herbert not being a leader or Sewell needing to increase his strength (good lord on that one). Thibodeaux will be a great pro. He had to deal with the PAC 12 COVID year and now a high ankle sprain. He’s just getting started.


LINK

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Thibodeaux acknowledged he left a handful of sacks on the field last season "because I got stuck on blocks," but also noted when asked about his flaws, "there's nothing (a coach) can tell me that I don't already know, and that's because I'm honest with myself and I watch the tape."


That quote tells me everything I need to know about him. He thinks he's the smartest person in every room he walks in and won't take to coaching well.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:39 pm to
I don't judge a guy on one conversation but his whole "Alabama/Saban" schtick during his conversation with Klatt was pretty pathetic (and filled with some really dumb shite that didn't even make sense).
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:40 pm to
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That quote tells me everything I need to know about him. He thinks he's the smartest person in every room he walks in and won't take to coaching well.


Except he was very coachable during his tenure. He's just saying that he self-reflects unless you want to take that completely out of context. He's saying he studies his own game.
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