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Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:16 am
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:16 am
First off, this is just an honest question. Kirby is a great coach. I'm just really curious about this.

Did Kirby's decision to give the nod to Frohm over Fields cost you a possible SEC championship and a playoff spot? When I watch each player this year(watched both play 5+ times) it's not even close. Fields has an invite to NYC for a very good reason. Plus, both teams mirror each other(comparing apples to apples). You have to believe with Fields at QB, the SC loss never happens. Then, a loss in the SECCG doesn't keep you out of the CFP. Do you not feel that this one is solely on Kirby? Isn't this where he really earns his $$$$? The entire evaluation of his team?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:19 am to
this is a dead horse question but what it boils down to is that the offense we run is what kirby wants to do, and it's the same offense we've run since he's been here in 2016 and the same offense he was used to in the early saban years at bama. Changing the offense (prior to 2019, I mean) was not an option at all. Fields looks great in an offense suited for him, but he wouldn't look as good as he does if he was still playing in our archaic one. And we would still have garbage for receivers.

People seem to forget Fields got plenty of time in 2018 and looked utterly lost, he wasn't starting for a reason.


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You have to believe with Fields at QB, the SC loss never happens. Then, a loss in the SECCG doesn't keep you out of the CFP


that isn't true in any way at all.
Posted by CFFreak
Rjyh, AL
Member since May 2019
8765 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:20 am to
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Kirby is a great coach.


This is not true.

Kirby knew he could not develop Fields and could not find a way to work with him (Fields knew it too of course which is really why he left). It is what it is.
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:24 am to
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Kirby knew he could not develop Fields and could not find a way to work with him (Fields knew it too of course which is really why he left). It is what it is.



If this is true, then you are right, he's not a good coach. Wow! This comment is surprising to me.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3501 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:24 am to
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And we would still have garbage for receivers


How many 5 star receivers do you need? Jesus, yalls cup runs over. I know y'all lost a lot of starters and hell probably even some leadership at the position but to act like talent isn't there is absurd. Not to mention that while also being more talented than 95% of the teams they play they also have a veteran qb, solid running game and defense to take stress off them. Its not like James Coley trotted an air raid offense out there and was relying heavily on them.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39971 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:26 am to
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If this is true, then you are right, he's not a good coach. Wow! This comment is surprising to me.


You're surprised an LSU fan who knows very little about the goings on at UGA gave you the answer you probably wanted to hear


WG had the correct answer.
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:27 am to
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People seem to forget Fields got plenty of time in 2018 and looked utterly lost, he wasn't starting for a reason.



This I did not know. Thanks.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39971 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:30 am to
Starting true freshman in the SEC is never a good idea unless you're rebuilding a program. The two 5 star freshman were pretty good for freshman but after them it was only Cager. The rest were not very good for us.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:30 am to
uga fans complaining about the WR's is insane...with that OL, Swift and #35 there is zero reason they didn't roll teams up.
Posted by TripleBrass
Member since Sep 2012
746 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:32 am to
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How many 5 star receivers do you need?


We have two true freshman...and that's it? One currently has an ACL tear. The rest of our receiving corps is...pretty bad? Our best receiver this year was a grad transfer from Miami. Jake's stats when he was healthy increased his completion % by nearly 20% (50s to 70s). We were playing two of the worst P5 receivers I've ever seen in Matt Landers and Tyler Simmons. These guys wouldn't see playing time at most G5 schools. I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:32 am to
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You're surprised an LSU fan who knows very little about the goings on at UGA gave you the answer you probably wanted to hear



Questions bother you that bad? Just interested in your overrated team. I'll get back to my #1 ranked team that made you beat your kids Saturday...... Hillbilly.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:34 am to
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uga fans complaining about the WR's is insane...with that OL, Swift and #35 there is zero reason they didn't roll teams up.



So this is your first year watching football. Keep posting. I want to see if you can make yourself look smarter (no where else to go but up)
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11914 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:38 am to
I will turn the question back on you.

Do you think that UGA beats LSU with Fields as the QB? Clemson?

If yes, then Kirby screwed up. If no, then no harm no foul.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:38 am to
No, Kirby’s decision to promote Coley instead of trying to keep Chaney or going out to get a proven coordinator and QB coach cost UGA a shot at an SEC/National Title this year. Fields would have improved our offense a tiny bit due to his ability to scramble, but not much was going to help the shitshow that is a James Coley offense.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:39 am to
Fields wasnt better than fromm last season. He got lots of snaps and lots of reps. More snaps than any other backup UGA freshman. More pass attempts than Tebows freshman year at Florida.

Fields wasnt bad. He made his throws. But he didn't read defenses. 1 read and he tucked the ball to scramble (scramble to run... not scramble to throw). And that isnt a good formula when the OL is giving you a clean pocket (leaving safety).

The other fallacy by the national media/narrative: smart didn't run fields off. No starter was named for 2019. If Fromm played this way at the end of last season, fields would have continued to get more opportunities.

Fields made a good decision for himself (not battle fromm in a more pro style system). More power to him. I wish him nothing but the best.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:44 am to
No way even with Fields does Georgia win this year but who knew we were going to be this awesome--and it felt great making Kirby our bitch 2 years in a row.

But, had we only had a good team then I could see the change at QB make a difference.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:46 am to
Simple answer, OSU promised fields the starting job while he was still at GA. Martel sucked and Gunner, the uk transfer is like comparing a minivan to a Ferrari.

Why compete with a five star when you can just go be the man.

Fromm is not as bad as he looks, what Tom Brady is dealing with is very similar to Fromm.

Burrow did not look great either last season. He fixed that.

So stopping beating a dead horse.

Screwing with your QB situation can be a mixed bag Bama kind of got away with it, but that is very rare and Hurts was patient with the situation and tua was a generational talent. Fields maybe, but it was not as apparent as a freshman.
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:48 am to
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Do you think that UGA beats LSU with Fields as the QB? Clemson?



With Frohm, absolutely NOT! Fields you know you have a much better chance. Maybe not a win, but the Stadium would've been full late in the 4rh qtr. The SECCG would've been way different. Frohm missed 5 easy passes that would've been first downs. All were wide open and two were TDs.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:50 am to
you're delusional if you think Fields over Fromm is the difference between getting smoked by LSU in the SECCG and actually winning the game.

regardless of how good Fields is, he doesn't catch his throws. UGA receivers, whether by injury or suspension or incompetence, were not going to do enough to win that game, Not if Fields was throwing, not if Aaron Rodgers was throwing.

Last I checked Fields also does not play defense.
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:51 am to
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lewis and herschel



Thanks for the answer. What I was looking for. Very informative.
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