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re: George Pickens has a torn ACL, per DawgSports
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:20 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:20 am to diddlydawg7
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This is the number 1 sign of low intelligence on the board nowadays.
What if I told you that Georgia threw passes of 25+ yards in the air (deep balls) more than any team in the SEC in 2020, and even more so with JT at QB?
Maybe you should try watching the games instead of spewing the same shite for 3 years.
What if I told you that chunking up a ton of deep balls hoping someone catches it is not a sign of having a modern offense? If anything, that play action deep ball game has become more of a relic. Today's offenses are more about high percentage throws and getting the ball out of the QB's hands quickly. And having JT at QB is exactly the argument I'm making. You have the talent to scheme around the loss of Pickens. Smart has to actually be willing to do it though. All I have seen so far though is him trying to replicate 2011 Bama in a 2021 world.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:22 am to diddlydawg7
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LSU fans are still salty about Burton
Pretty sure they are much happier with boutte
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:24 am to MillerLiteTime
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I'm catching heat from a few on here (not you) but this is essentially all I'm arguing. A program at UGA's level of recruiting ability should be able to have a functional offense with or without Pickens. So yea, the offense may need to adjust but they have the players to do it. So if the offense isn't up to par this season, blame the coaches for not adjusting, not the Pickens injury.
Overall you're right. You're being a bit too hard on Pickens himself, but you're correct about the offense in general. 2020 was a step in the right direction schematically speaking. The implementation of the offense was held back by limited practice and an unsettled QB battle due to a myriad of reasons. Will be interesting to see how far they can progress with a full spring and a settled QB.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:26 am to MillerLiteTime
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All I have seen so far though is him trying to replicate 2011 Bama in a 2021 world.
Not entirely true.
Let's see what Monken does with a full spring and a settled QB before making judgement.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:28 am to MacMan10
Bottom line:
No offense but UGA just does not have the horses to be this explosive elite offense without Pickens. I think your trying to convince yourselves but no where near this:
20 Alabama Waddle and Smith
19 LSU Chase and Jefferson
18 Ross and Higgins
17 Ridley and Fab Four
ETC...
No offense but UGA just does not have the horses to be this explosive elite offense without Pickens. I think your trying to convince yourselves but no where near this:
20 Alabama Waddle and Smith
19 LSU Chase and Jefferson
18 Ross and Higgins
17 Ridley and Fab Four
ETC...
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:31 am to so_comfort
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The implementation of the offense was held back by limited practice and an unsettled QB battle due to a myriad of reasons. Will be interesting to see how far they can progress with a full spring and a settled QB.
For sure. UGA seems to be trying to head in a different direction. UGA with a top 15-20 offense while still having elite defensive talent would be super dangerous. UGA gets a lot of shite for no titles since Walker, but I also think they are one of the unluckiest programs that are due their turn. There are 4-5 seasons just in the Richt/Smart era where a few breaks that Bama has tended to receive on the favorable side would have resulted in national titles.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:34 am to MacMan10
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Bottom line:
No offense but UGA just does not have the horses to be this explosive elite offense without Pickens. I think your trying to convince yourselves but no where near this:
20 Alabama Waddle and Smith
19 LSU Chase and Jefferson
18 Ross and Higgins
17 Ridley and Fab Four
ETC...
I don't think you need 2-3 NFL first rounders at receiver to be an explosive offense though. You need a really good ball distributor at QB and an OL that can protect him and the ground game. Receivers are a lot like HB's in that they can be replaced if the core QB/OL is still at a high level.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:37 am to MacMan10
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Don’t get me wrong, Burton is a stud. But your wrong. Haha What game outside of MSU says he is better than Pickens?
I think a lot of that is our qbs just being more comfortable with Pickens. We'll find out this year. To me, Burton is the more complete WR, maybe Pickens is better overall.
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My opinion is based more on UGA history of WR’s than Burton lol
Well, we had WRs running open on pretty much every play last year but no qb to hit them until Daniels stepped up. Hoping that offense takes an extra step forward.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:37 am to MacMan10
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No offense but UGA just does not have the horses to be this explosive elite offense without Pickens. I think your trying to convince yourselves but no where near this:
20 Alabama Waddle and Smith
19 LSU Chase and Jefferson
18 Ross and Higgins
17 Ridley and Fab Four
ETC...
Honestly, I don't think we know that yet.
Pickens was the best of the group, but there is talent in the WR room. It's all yet to be proven at the college level, but there is talent.
For example, the 2018 versions of Jefferson and Chase were good, but nowhere near elite. If we were talking about how good they were prior to the 2019 season, we all would have agreed they were good, but not great. They ending up benefiting from an elite scheme with an all time season from a QB, and it's only with hindsight that we can say just how elite they were.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:37 am to MillerLiteTime
If you want to beat the best in cfb you need a top receiver.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:41 am to MillerLiteTime
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For sure. UGA seems to be trying to head in a different direction. UGA with a top 15-20 offense while still having elite defensive talent would be super dangerous. UGA gets a lot of shite for no titles since Walker, but I also think they are one of the unluckiest programs that are due their turn. There are 4-5 seasons just in the Richt/Smart era where a few breaks that Bama has tended to receive on the favorable side would have resulted in national titles.
Agreed. I tend to think they'll break through sometime in the not too distant future, but maybe that's just my red and black glasses.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:43 am to MacMan10
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If you want to beat the best in cfb you need a top receiver.
One big thing that UGA loses without Pickens is he was that QB safety net. The guy that when shite is breaking down everywhere, just heave it up and let your guy go get it. I do agree that the best offenses have that type of dude on their team.
It isn't readily apparent who may be able to fill that role, if anyone.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:47 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I know you guys have been in love with the idea of Monken opening it up and all but question:
Would you guys not say that the strength of your team goes back to the run game and ball control with the Pickens injury?
Kearis and the bunch just make me think about like a marquis maze or ardarius Stewart type for us in the past.
Would you guys not say that the strength of your team goes back to the run game and ball control with the Pickens injury?
Kearis and the bunch just make me think about like a marquis maze or ardarius Stewart type for us in the past.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:54 am to MacMan10
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Would you guys not say that the strength of your team goes back to the run game and ball control with the Pickens injury?
It won't be like the Cheney years. That was the identity the Dawgs built under Smart's direction and Cheney's play-calling.
I fully believe that to even get a guy like Monken in the door, Smart would have had to promise a no interference policy especially considering how cantankerous Monken's relationship was with his prior HC. So, Monken will do what he does.
With that being said, any OC worth his salt is going to play to his teams strengths, so we may run a bit more than we originally were going to, but I don't think it will be anything like the Cheney/Coley years.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:54 am to MillerLiteTime
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Receivers are a lot like HB's in that they can be replaced if the core QB/OL is still at a high level
Garbage.
Fromm went from a very good QB to average in '19 without WR's who left early,were suspended or injured.I lost track but we were down 7 or 8 by the time the SECCG was played.
Cager (out with injury)
Holloman (suspended for season)
Pickens (out 1sf half)
Blaylock (out moat of 3 qtrs)
Also missed Kearis Jackson during the reg season with hand injury.
You can't be plug and play when missing all those parts at a particular posistion.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 11:12 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:54 am to so_comfort
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For example, the 2018 versions of Jefferson and Chase were good, but nowhere near elite. If we were talking about how good they were prior to the 2019 season, we all would have agreed they were good, but not great. They ending up benefiting from an elite scheme with an all time season from a QB, and it's only with hindsight that we can say just how elite they were.
LSU caught lightning in a bottle. I think odds are more likely for a repeat of the past three seasons for UGA than moving toward what happened at LSU
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:57 am to so_comfort
Nice. UGA will definitely be a fun surprise to see how the offense comes out this year. Tough draw with Clemson to start the year. Especially trying to figure out how to replace Pickens
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:57 am to MacMan10
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Kearis and the bunch just make me think about like a marquis maze or ardarius Stewart type for us in the past.
Kearis is a good piece, but isn't a world beater by himself. As discussed ad nauseam in this thread, Burton is a good one. A. Smith has elite speed that just can't be taught. And, there are other guys that all just need a chance to get out there before we can really make better judgements.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 10:58 am to so_comfort
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As discussed ad nauseam in this thread, Burton is a good one.
Yea, I was trying to say I just don’t know who you count on other than him. As an opposing fan tbh, none of them worry me.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 11:01 am to MacMan10
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LSU caught lightning in a bottle. I think odds are more likely for a repeat of the past three seasons for UGA than moving toward what happened at LSU
I wasn't trying to say that UGA would match LSU of '19. No one of a sane mind thinks that.
Just illustrating, how preseason prognostications can be tough when one has limited data on inexperienced, but talented WRs.
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