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re: Games holding up the SEC from going to a 9 team yearly schedule.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 8:47 am to TidalSurge1
Posted on 11/22/18 at 8:47 am to TidalSurge1
Because you grabbed a calculator and the math is correct.
Enjoy the family. Happy Thanksgiving!
Enjoy the family. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:47 am to ReauxlTide222
GT beat us in Kirby's first year here. That is still a big game for us. Remember, we've only been good for two years. For people that are older than 15, this is still a big game.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:48 am to DirtyDawg
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I really don't care if we play Tech.
I don't either, they are irrelevant, and a waste of time.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 9:51 am to jawjaTiger
What’s funny about all of this is that none of these schools want their rival in conference but expect to be able to play them every year. The only slight exception is Georgia because Tech used to be in the conference and left. I’m not sure if Georgia would let them back in though.
It should be 9 conference games.
It should be 9 conference games.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:25 am to meansonny
quote:that's actually a pretty good point
You just made 7 games of TV, radio, and potentially home games disappear into thin air.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:34 am to UncleFestersLegs
I went a little too far.
The radio broadcast will still be present for both teams.
But that is 7 games of TV that fall out of the networks (less football for the SEC split every year). Potentially 7 fewer games in home stadiums. Revenue for restaurants, hotels, retail, parking that disappear.
The radio broadcast will still be present for both teams.
But that is 7 games of TV that fall out of the networks (less football for the SEC split every year). Potentially 7 fewer games in home stadiums. Revenue for restaurants, hotels, retail, parking that disappear.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:40 am to UncleFestersLegs
And having UGA play Arkansas one more time won't make up that lost revenue.
The same for Bama versus Vandy.
We have a 9th game already. It is played the first Saturday in December and it is glorious.
The same for Bama versus Vandy.
We have a 9th game already. It is played the first Saturday in December and it is glorious.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:41 am to WV Sage
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Or drop the permanent cross rival games...
Zero negative impact on 9 game schedules. Actually helps the cause
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:56 am to lsufball19
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And yes, as a fan, I hate it. I’m 100% for a 9 game schedule
You are smarter than most. There are actually many fans on this board that will defend this to the hilt because revenue, revenue, revenue!!!
Universities whored out their football programs long ago to squeeze every last dollar out of it.
Tradition: for sale
Good schedules: for sale
Student athlete experience: for
sale
Student body experience: for sale
Fan experience: for sale
Integrity of the sport: for sale
Health of the sport: for sale
9 game schedule for reasons already mentioned is far from happening. Cant pay for Belinda, the glorified AD secretary’s 6 figure salary with one less home game. The girls soccer team cant pay for their special edition alternate unis they will wear one time on a 5 game home schedule. The associate ADs wont get their huge bonuses for doing an incredibly easy job without those fan fleecing FCS home games.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 10:59 am to TidalSurge1
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I don't know which is worse in that relpy, your reading comprehension or thinking (logic, math).
Ah... The last bastion of the defeated... Point fingers without basis. Happy Thanksgiving. Take a breather, eat some turkey, and try again.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:07 am to jawjaTiger
Only 2 schools bitch about the schedule: L8U and the barn. The rest of us understand rivalry games.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:19 am to bamafan1001
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Tradition: for sale
The argument for 8 games is to preserve tradition. Is that lost on you?
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Good schedules: for sale
The 9 game schedule isn't good. It is average. More of the same.
Half of the teams are below average. That is the literal definition of below average.
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Student athlete experience: for
sale
Student athletes would rather play at Notre Dame than at Arkansas. Student athletes would rather play at Clemson than at Vandy. Student athletes would rather play at Texas than at Mizzou.
ADs can schedule better for your school than the SEC league can. Change my mind.
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Fan experience: for sale
Fans want better home games. The 9th conference game is stripping away a home game. Why?
Because fans love to bitch for no reason.
1) "the november slate sucks"... well, UGA played South Carolina, Auburn, Kentucky, and GT in 2017. No one noticed except the Scar fans who wanted better games in September (which means moving OOC games to November). Fans will either bitch about September or November. The bottom line is fans love to bitch.
2) "we should ban FCS opponents". UGA played FBS UMass last week and was blasted nationally for it. It doesn't matter if it is FCS, FBS, or P5... any team scheduling a home only sucks and is a cupcake. Bitching will ensue regardless.
3) "the GT game is pointless". GT is a traditional game against a top 25 program all time in college football OOC. I thought people wanted to avoid cupcakes who would do home and homes? I thought people wanted more games against power 5s? I thought people wanted tradition and rivalries? UGA knows that GT only isn't enough. That is why we played @Notre Dame and @GT last season. That is why we have scheduled Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma State, Boise St, North Carolina, and Clemson.
No one remembers that we flew @Arizona State the week before Bama in 2008 (that is ballsy). They only like to bitch because that is what the media and peeps do.
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Integrity of the sport: for sale
Health of the sport: for sale
Agree to disagree. If your team schedules more like UGA, people would still bitch. But you can get everything you want without a 9th conference game.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:32 am to jawjaTiger
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And thus, allowing everyone in the SEC to actually play each other in the SEC on a yearly basis:
Georgia/GA Tech
Florida/FSU
South Carolina/CU
Kentucky/UL
All are basically meaninglessness games, but it is insisted upon that they add these meaningless games each year.
Georgia could replace UMass with SEC game.
Florida could replace Idaho with SEC game.
USCe could replace Chattanooga with SEC game.
Kentucky could replace Murray St. with SEC game.
See, that wasn't so difficult.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:37 am to Judah Mann
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Georgia could replace UMass with SEC game.
Georgia replaces UMass with Notre Dame next season.
Who are your top 2 OOC opponents in 2019?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:44 am to Judah Mann
How many times does this have to be hashed and rehashed?
The ONLY reason the AD's and presidents and SEC office won't go to 9 conference games is bowl MONEY. The cupcakes make it easier for 10-12 teams to qualify for bowls. Lose a cupcake and less teams go to bowls. Sankey has even said this. To hell with the fans.
The ONLY reason the AD's and presidents and SEC office won't go to 9 conference games is bowl MONEY. The cupcakes make it easier for 10-12 teams to qualify for bowls. Lose a cupcake and less teams go to bowls. Sankey has even said this. To hell with the fans.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:49 am to meansonny
Wed have a better debate if you let me make my arguments instead of you doing it for me.
When I spoke of tradition, I was speaking in general terms. Tradition im speaking of are things separate from actual play that are special to the sport and/or specific programs or fanbases. An 8 game conference in my mind at least is not a long standing tradition and not necessary to maintain.
Fans would rather see another SEC team than a cupcake. Your retort probably would be “well the alternative doesn’t have to be a cupcake” to which id respond the teams are already scheduling cupcakes. The 9th game wont replace most team’s one decent OOC game.
All of this is true, but adding a 9th SEC game doesn’t prohibit schools from scheduling these OOC games. ADs arent really scheduling these games. Bama scheduled home and homes with Texas and Notre Dame in the future...but they could have done the exact same thing with the 9 game SEC schedule. An ideal schedule that would actually be interesting for fans everywhere would be 9 game conference schedules, two P5 home and homes, and the best G5 home filler you can schedule...or a third home and home.
You haven’t provided any compelling reasons against a 9 game conference schedule. All the bad things you say will happen are 100% avoidable. The only obstacle is ADs refusing to give up those fan fleecing home games.
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The argument for 8 games is to preserve tradition. Is that lost on you?
When I spoke of tradition, I was speaking in general terms. Tradition im speaking of are things separate from actual play that are special to the sport and/or specific programs or fanbases. An 8 game conference in my mind at least is not a long standing tradition and not necessary to maintain.
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The 9 game schedule isn't good. It is average. More of the same.
Half of the teams are below average. That is the literal definition of below average.
Fans would rather see another SEC team than a cupcake. Your retort probably would be “well the alternative doesn’t have to be a cupcake” to which id respond the teams are already scheduling cupcakes. The 9th game wont replace most team’s one decent OOC game.
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Student athletes would rather play at Notre Dame than at Arkansas. Student athletes would rather play at Clemson than at Vandy. Student athletes would rather play at Texas than at Mizzou.
ADs can schedule better for your school than the SEC league can. Change my mind.
All of this is true, but adding a 9th SEC game doesn’t prohibit schools from scheduling these OOC games. ADs arent really scheduling these games. Bama scheduled home and homes with Texas and Notre Dame in the future...but they could have done the exact same thing with the 9 game SEC schedule. An ideal schedule that would actually be interesting for fans everywhere would be 9 game conference schedules, two P5 home and homes, and the best G5 home filler you can schedule...or a third home and home.
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But you can get everything you want without a 9th conference game.
You haven’t provided any compelling reasons against a 9 game conference schedule. All the bad things you say will happen are 100% avoidable. The only obstacle is ADs refusing to give up those fan fleecing home games.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:50 am to prisonpunk
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The ONLY reason the AD's and presidents and SEC office won't go to 9 conference games is bowl MONEY
Wrong. There are about 30 reasons. Money is a big one.
Keep telling yourself that you would prefer the conference office in more control of your own schedule than your own athletic department. That is such a commie thing to want (I can't control my own athletic department so let's take control away from everyone's athletic department).
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:56 am to meansonny
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Keep telling yourself that you would prefer the conference office in more control of your own schedule than your own athletic department.
If it results in a consistently better schedule im all for it. Is the 8 game conference schedule communist...or is it just the standard that all teams voluntarily agreed apon?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 11:56 am to jawjaTiger
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Kentucky/UL
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meaningless
Yeah no. Sorry no one cares about auburn (outside the SEC) enough to hate you all
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:03 pm to meansonny
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Georgia replaces UMass with Notre Dame next season.
OK. Replace ND with an SEC team. 95% chance your strength of schedule takes a hit though.
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