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re: FSU and Clemson: does the SEC really want them?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:22 am to Geaux002
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:22 am to Geaux002
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Sankey already said they are done expanding.
That was last month.
Keep up.
They say one thing and could mean another.
From what we’ve heard over the last two year from this board is an unscientific tabulated majority of Ranters want fsu/Clemson (if we have to expand).
Well you may have to expand because fsu and l Clemson May bolt ACC and if sec says no, they are going to big 10.
You may mot care. But then the big10 is playing a game every week in sec territory.
Makes Miami i teresting as well but they can go on.
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:24 am to dstone12
Florida State is second only to Notre Dame in terms of "big gets" left on the board, and I don't think the Golden Domers are coming to the SEC. AAU status not withstanding, Florida State is a realistic grab for the Big Ten that I wouldn't want slipping away if I were Sankey.
Clemson has had massive success over the last decade, but I don't see them actually piquing the interest of the Big Ten given research prestige and culture are a definite stretch. The way I see it, if A) the Big Ten isn't taking you and B) you're in a market already covered by the SEC there's really no reason to roll out the red carpet. If Clemson finds themselves playing Cincinnati/UCF/Iowa State yearly, their level of success and popularity will decrease as the Gamecocks distance themselves in terms of being the state's most popular program.
Clemson has had massive success over the last decade, but I don't see them actually piquing the interest of the Big Ten given research prestige and culture are a definite stretch. The way I see it, if A) the Big Ten isn't taking you and B) you're in a market already covered by the SEC there's really no reason to roll out the red carpet. If Clemson finds themselves playing Cincinnati/UCF/Iowa State yearly, their level of success and popularity will decrease as the Gamecocks distance themselves in terms of being the state's most popular program.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:34 am to SA Horn
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They don’t move the needle for me. We already hand those markets.
Well SA Horn... you aren't even playing an SEC schedule yet, so go away. And then, what is this "we" shite? You talking about uour current conference i assume.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:34 am to dstone12
Only reason to take them is to keep the B1G out of the South. We don’t need the additional brand names and their inclusion only makes a tough conference tougher.
Could argue that UNC and UVA would be bigger wins for us (increases the academic and basketball profile while exposing the SEC to regional states where a foothold has yet to be established)
Could argue that UNC and UVA would be bigger wins for us (increases the academic and basketball profile while exposing the SEC to regional states where a foothold has yet to be established)
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:38 am to TrumpedUpVol
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I don't think the Golden Domers are coming to the SEC.
I agree. They really want to remain independent, but if they give that up, they will go to the B1G. They have more long time rivals there and then academics.
But, as much as i hate ND, they are a program that can negotiate their own TV contracts and remain financially secure. They always get the benefit of the doubt from the media and will always get a bowl invite that is above their punching weight. They've done a good job over the years of building their base and have the largest fan following by far.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 7:49 am to Mr Sausage
quote:Be a cold day in hell before we let Louisville into this mfer.
Bring on Louisville, Florida State, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:18 am to UKWildcats
He's being butthurt because Texas got in so he's trolling Kentucky, South Carolina, UGA and Florida.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:21 am to Landmass
frick fsu.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:57 am to tylerdurden24
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Only reason to take them is to keep the B1G out of the South
Yep that’s what I’m getting at. It’s the crux of the question.
How bad do you want FSU out of the big10. They won’t stay in floundering ACC, nor would they want to wait to find out the tv deal.
If I were Florida and I play then every year, I want them in the sec so they can avoid ACC/big10 cakewalks.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:00 am to dstone12
Does FSU or Clemson being in the big10 really hurt the SEC? Will recruits want to go there and travel to Rutgers/Nebraska/Maryland etc over SEC schools?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:05 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:It's amazing how many people just completely breeze by this point. All this talk about Clemson and FSU, or any ACC school, is pointless, unless you are talking about a move in the middle of the next decade.
Clemson, FSU or any other ACC team isn't going anywhere unless they can find a way to break the GOR agreement that has the ACC locked down until 2036.
Unless the lawyers can figure this out or they get enough schools to vote to dissolve the league it's a moot comment.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:07 am to twk
People breeze by it because no one believes any of that shite is iron clad. Contracts get broken and dissolved all the time. Where there's a will there's a way. Just depends on how much they're willing to pay.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:37 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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Will recruits want to go there and travel to Rutgers/Nebraska/Maryland etc over SEC schools?
They’ll travel to Vandy and Mizzy. Granted Nashville is awesome.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:16 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Scrooster does not want FSU in the SEC as that will be another team making SCe their bitch. FSU owns Carolina!
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:23 pm to Lynxrufus2012
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It is always Christmas at U ofL.
Ho ho ho.
All the more reason to invite them!
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:25 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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Who’s the clan member?
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:29 pm to Tillman
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don't see an advantage to going to super stacked conferences with a 12 team playoff on the way. Clemson doesn't lack money and never will.
You will once the new deals kick in and all of a sudden schools are doubling y’all up on TV revenue.
Additionally, with a 12 team playoff, 2 losses doesn’t disqualify you. Hell, depending on the team 3 may not.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:34 pm to TrumpedUpVol
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Clemson has had massive success over the last decade, but I don't see them actually piquing the interest of the Big Ten given research prestige and culture are a definite stretch
Clemson is one of the top engineering and science colleges in the country. Clemson is a Carnegie R1 research university. This is the top designation Carnegie awards to doctoral universities with the highest levels of research activity.
How is the culture different at Clemson than Penn State, Ohio State, etc. That makes no sense.
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:37 pm to Tillman
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Clemson is one of the top engineering and science colleges in the country. How is the culture different at Clemson than Penn State, Ohio State, etc. That makes no sense.
Engineering schools have zero to do with football fanbase culture.
Do better.
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:38 pm to dstone12
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Engineering schools have zero to do with football fanbase culture.
Do better.
I was responding to somebody who said Clemson wouldn't be a good fit in big 10 due to academics and research.
We are currently in a conference with G Tech, Duke, UNC, etc that are hyped up for academics but we can't be in the Big 10. lol
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