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re: From Petrino, to John L., to Bielema's plan paying off: tFlagship rising

Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:38 pm to
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You lucked out in 2007 and split the title in 2003
guess we don't have two national championships because some dumbass on a message board says they aren't legitimate. You're acting like I'm young but you're immature enough to claim that we "lucked out" in 2007 and "split a title" when we won the BCS championship game in 2003? And what about the 3 SEC championships we've won?
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Funny that you'd brag about winning a title in a year when you lost to Arkansas.
Because that's definitely how being good works right? Keep acting like Arkansas fans wouldn't absolutely kill to have LSU's same exact level of success from 2000-2015 for the next 15 years. It's funny because there's a 0% chance of Arkansas fielding teams even remotely comparable to 2003 or 2007 LSU's success, talent, and coaching but ya'll are still going to talk shite classic Arkansas
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:46 pm to
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hmmmm Didn't you say that LSU is elite and that you guys have recruited top notch classes forever. (I don't remember the last time a LSU class wasn't Top 10)

Players come and go, there's an ebb and flow with talent and experience. Assistants have cycled. The constant is your head coach and tDecline.

tDecline? Finally an Arky fan was dumb enough to bring that up

Les Miles' record in the past 4 years:
13-1
10-3
10-3
8-5


Bert's record in the last 6 years, including his most successful 4 year stretch from 2009-2012:
10-3
11-2
11-3
8-5

3-9
7-6

It's funny because Bielema is the greatest coach ever in Arkansas fans' eyes but his most successful 4 year stretch ever is identical to the one that people are claiming is signaling Miles' "decline", minus the 13 win SEC championship season, plus a weak arse big ten schedule

If Miles sucks (most weeks spent in the top 25 since 2005 of any coach in the entire nation, but he sucks right?) then so does your boy Bert. Again, ya'll are a bunch of clueless hypocrites
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18148 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:48 pm to
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athletic director Jeff Long hired Bielema, he specifically told him he wasn’t expecting anything in Year 1. Or Year 2.



Way to deliver Bert !!
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:54 pm to
I get so angry when rags such as the Sporting News write positive things about Arkansas! Do they not know how great LSU is?!
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:01 pm to
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I get so angry when rags such as the Sporting News write positive things about Arkansas! Do they not know how great LSU is?!
Funny that that's your take on how this thread has gone. To just clear it up:
---I jumped in the thread to point out that Arkansas fans need to chill out with the arrogance considering your team is 2-14 in the SEC in the last two years
---I point out a bunch of valid weaknesses
---Arkansas fans start insulting LSU because that's what fans of shitty programs do when they're pretending that their team is good and someone points out their weaknesses and they don't have any stats to refute it
---I respond with a ton of stats pointing out why a bunch of Arky fans should probably stop talking about one of the best programs in the SEC in the last 10 years
---Arkansas fans respond to me defending my team with more bullshite about why LSU, a team with eight 10-win seasons, a national championship, and 2 SEC championships in the last 10 years, "simply isn't that good"
---Arkansas fans claim that LSU fans just want to talk about LSU in every thread even though they could've responded to my posts about Arkansas without dragging us into it
---???
---Repeat
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:10 pm to
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I jumped in the thread to point out that Arkansas fans need to chill out with the arrogance considering your team is 2-14 in the SEC in the last two years


A) Arkansas fans didn't write the article
B) the article pointed out the 2-14 record and gave some reasons for it
C) Arkansas fans having expectations for their team for the first time in a little while isn't exactly arrogance and FWIW literally zero hog fans have said that their expectations are a conference championship.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41245 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:14 pm to
Didn't you know, what happened two years ago dictates exactly what is going to happen this year. Rantard logic at it's finest.
Posted by SemperAuburn
Enterprise, AL
Member since Apr 2012
1349 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:17 pm to
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We've been quite humble throughout the year


LMFAO you call this off season humble? God I hope Arkansas goes win-less the next three years because I don't think tRant can handle you guys gloating.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 11:25 pm
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:21 pm to
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A) Arkansas fans didn't write the article
Never said they did
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B) the article pointed out the 2-14 record and gave some reasons for it
And I pointed out that elite SEC coaches don't go 2-14, and excuses from some sportsnation hack aside, they don't. It'll be apparent in the upcoming years though
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C) Arkansas fans having expectations for their team for the first time in a little while isn't exactly arrogance and FWIW literally zero hog fans have said that their expectations are a conference championship.
So what exactly should I infer when several people tell me that LSU is underachieving and Bert is better than Miles even though Miles has one of the highest winning percentages in the country in the last 10 years? Plenty of people are saying that Bert is a better coach than Miles and that would mean that he should win an SEC championship next year at the least (even though technically it's already too late) if he's going to be in the same category as Miles, Richt, Saban, Meyer, etc. and other elite SEC coaches that, as I've pointed out, have seen almost immediate success in the SEC
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:26 pm to
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TheCheshireHog
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Rantard logic
Ironic

Oh and:
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Didn't you know, what happened two years ago dictates exactly what is going to happen this year
Never said that, just said that ya'll should probably shut the frick up until your team proves that it can win more than 2 SEC games in 2 years. That should probably be common sense on ya'll's end considering it's more likely that ya'll go 7-5 again and have to eat crow than getting to 15-0 but to each his own, you're the ones that are going to get shite on by the rant every single game if your team sucks so do whatever ya'll want
Posted by Chuck3000
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2014
302 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:27 pm to
Ark beat LSU in 2007, lets not forget
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41245 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:30 pm to
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Never said that, just said that ya'll should probably shut the frick up until your team proves that it can win more than 2 SEC games in 2 years.


It's a fricking message board. Nothing said on here by any poster has any effect on the outcome of a college football game. You should really get over yourself because your whining definitely isn't going to make them stop.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 11:33 pm
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9299 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:32 pm to
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And I pointed out that elite SEC coaches don't go 2-14, and excuses from some sportsnation hack aside, they don't. It'll be apparent in the upcoming years though


There isn't a coach in the nation that would have won big at Arkansas the last two years after taking over a program that was gutted by the Petrino / John L fiasco and the culture it created. Bert has completely changed the identity and culture of the football program since he took over. I think that will lead to some wins in the coming years. We'll see.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:32 pm to
The Hogs ripped LSU's wig off in 2007.....In Death Valley..............AND the Last Game of the regular Season...... YET, LSU still plays for the NC!!!!!!! Sounds like either luck or VooDoo to me.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:33 pm to
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Ark beat LSU in 2007, lets not forget
I don't think that you people understand why this is insignificant. If you're looking at a college class and the smartest person scores a 70% on a test although they've scored 90%+ on the 10 other tests, and the dumbest kid in the class scores a 75% on that same test even though he's scored 60%'s on every other test, guess who's still the smart kid? LSU is the smart kid, and Arkansas is the dumb kid. Just because ya'll had a good showing and we had a bad one doesn't mean that ya'll had a better team than us over the course of a season
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:37 pm to
I bet you are a pure genius aren't you...
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:44 pm to
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There isn't a coach in the nation that would have won big at Arkansas the last two years after taking over a program that was gutted by the Petrino / John L fiasco and the culture it created
This is completely untrue. LSU was in shambles when Saban took over and he built the program from the ground up and he won the SEC in his 2nd year. Arkansas was a year removed from back to back 10 win seasons for the first time since.......? I don't even know, multiple decades? and most of his players were coached by Petrino. One year under a crappy coach doesn't cripple a program. You can't act like the change in culture is significant either because Miles and Saban are polar opposites and Miles took the reigns and kept rolling at the highest level. I'm not saying that Bert won't see success, because he will, but it probably won't be nearly as drastic this season as some people are expecting and that was my point of jumping into this thread.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:47 pm to
Do you disagree with what I said in that post? Or did you just pop in to throw that zinger at me and then leave? Because yea, I'm a pretty smart guy but I'm not sure why we're trying to get personal on a sports forum
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8684 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:50 pm to
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I don't think that you people understand why this is insignificant


In most years, it means LSU doesn't play for the national championship. I'd say that's pretty significant.

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---I jumped in the thread to point out that Arkansas fans need to chill out with the arrogance considering your team is 2-14 in the SEC in the last two years


Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:53 pm to
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This is completely untrue. LSU was in shambles when Saban took over and he built the program from the ground up and he won the SEC in his 2nd year. Arkansas was a year removed from back to back 10 win seasons for the first time since.......? I don't even know, multiple decades? and most of his players were coached by Petrino. One year under a crappy coach doesn't cripple a program.


I just wanted to stop in and say how much I appreciate your totally objective take on our program. You are a genius.
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