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Posted on 8/10/13 at 10:46 am to Monticello
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What Rose Bowl trophies?
So witty!
Posted on 8/10/13 at 10:49 am to reggierayreb
The list is based on past performance. I'm more interested in what Bret will do in the future.
GO HOGS!
GO HOGS!
Posted on 8/10/13 at 10:51 am to ljhog
Yeah, Franklin and Muschamp are just starting out the gate and Beilema (with a few others) are brand new to league. Be a whole different list 5 years from now.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 10:58 am to beaverfever
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I don't get where the "beliema is a terrible coach" thing came from. I don't think he's Saban but he has a solid resume and Arkansas couldn't do much better. 9 sounds pretty fair.
Because he's at Arkansas and this is the Rant
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:23 am to TroyTider
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I totally disagree with Mack Brown at 12.
He still has a shite ton of ten win seasons, a natty, and had them play for a second.
If it was as easy to win at Texas as their fans want everyone to think McWilliams and Mackovic would have lasted longer.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:28 am to The_Joker
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I don't get where the "beliema is a terrible coach" thing came from. I don't think he's Saban but he has a solid resume and Arkansas couldn't do much better. 9 sounds pretty fair.
It comes from the fact that he wasn't great against the upper teams in the B1G. He won some big games but his 3rd Rose Bowl bid came from finishing 3rd in his own division.
I think top 10 is too high for him, and he should be in the mid to late teens
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:30 am to beaverfever
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I don't get where the "beliema is a terrible coach" thing came from. I don't think he's Saban but he has a solid resume and Arkansas couldn't do much better. 9 sounds pretty fair.
I don't think that 2B is bad at all but I also don't think he is a top 10 coach in college football either. I thought that Arkansas did the best job in the SEC for filling their vacancy with a "proven" coach that had a style that could compete in the SEC the best.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:33 am to Warfarer
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I don't think that 2B is bad at all but I also don't think he is a top 10 coach in college footbal
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:34 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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quote: His Rose Bowl trophies hold a lot of weight He never won a rose bowl.
true, but he has lots of those little participation trophies like you get when you play tee ball
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:34 am to Buckeye06
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It comes from the fact that he wasn't great against the upper teams in the B1G. He won some big games but his 3rd Rose Bowl bid came from finishing 3rd in his own division.
And if other teams in their division didn't cheat so much, he would have won a lot more.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:42 am to Stonehog
What's laughable about my statement? At best, 2B is 5th in the SEC alone if you don't think Sumlin is ahead of him which is very debatable and possibly add Muschamp, Franklin and Jones to the argument but those are a stretch.
Outside the SEC, I can think of at least 5 to 10 coaches that I would hire before 2B. That puts him around the 15 mark.
And I'm not a homer, until he proves himself, I think Malzahn should be near the bottom of every list.
Outside the SEC, I can think of at least 5 to 10 coaches that I would hire before 2B. That puts him around the 15 mark.
And I'm not a homer, until he proves himself, I think Malzahn should be near the bottom of every list.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:45 am to Dr RC
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If it was as easy to win at Texas as their fans want everyone to think McWilliams and Mackovic would have lasted longer.
This is true. It is not easy to win at Texas. First and foremost, it is a political job where you have to appease the boosters.
What Texas needs most is a CEO coach who hires great assistants and shapes the image of the program. There has certainly been questionable coaching, but that isn't Mack "per se," it's his ability to fill those slots with the right coaches, and that's probably been his Achilles heel.
Coach Brown is an ultimate arse-kisser and elbow-rubber, though. Darrell Royal with his folksy, quotable whit and rubbing elbows with Presidents and executives and newspaper editors helped him a lot, too.
I would imagine Saban is not an arse-kisser with the alumni (not that he's insulting), and that's why he really wouldn't be a good fit at Texas. Some Billy Bob wouldn't like that and there'd be some resentment because they wouldn't feel "special," and the slightest Saban slip-up would bring animosity to the surface, no matter his record.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 11:52 am to reggierayreb
I stopped reading when Jimbo was in front of Boom.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:45 pm to Warfarer
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What's laughable about my statement? At best, 2B is 5th in the SEC alone if you don't think Sumlin is ahead of him which is very debatable and possibly add Muschamp, Franklin and Jones to the argument but those are a stretch.
Bielema has a top 10 resume, and a MUCH better one than any of the coaches you listed.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 12:58 pm to BrerTiger
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Getting hats from BCS bowls carries a lot of weight at Fox Sports.
FTFY
Posted on 8/10/13 at 1:28 pm to Stonehog
No, no he doesn't
Posted on 8/10/13 at 1:42 pm to Stonehog
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Bielema has a top 10 resume, and a MUCH better one than any of the coaches you listed.
I just looked at his wiki and would like to hear how this is a top ten resume.
2006 12-1 with a bowl win
2007 9-4 with a bowl loss
2008 7-6 Bowl loss
2009 10-3 Bowl win
2010 11-2 Bowl loss
2011 11-3 Bowl loss
2012 8-5 and didn't coach in the bowl loss.
so as a head coach he is 68-24 with a 2-4 bowl record. Not sure how this translates to a top 10 resume.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 1:49 pm to nc14
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That list went to hell after Saban.
Fixed.
Posted on 8/10/13 at 2:12 pm to TigerBait2008
What is your criteria for a top 10 coach....enlighten us.
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