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re: Former Miss State Coach Moorhead says getting to a bowl and beating Ole Miss the only goal
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:22 pm to terriblegreen
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:22 pm to terriblegreen
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State will only accomplish one of their goals each year at most.
Harvest season comes early this year.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:25 pm to MNW
No doubt. It was tragic and I hate it for him, his family, state, and college football. But if you look back at my post listing the number of 8 win seasons state has had since 1970, you can’t blame all that on Mike Leach dying.
My first point was that Moorhead has a reason to be a little perturbed about being fired after only two seasons. My second was that MSU is going to have a revolving door of coaches if they expect to win 8 games every season and fire their head coach the first season they don’t.
My first point was that Moorhead has a reason to be a little perturbed about being fired after only two seasons. My second was that MSU is going to have a revolving door of coaches if they expect to win 8 games every season and fire their head coach the first season they don’t.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:31 pm to captdalton
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My first point was that Moorhead has a reason to be a little perturbed about being fired after only two seasons
Moorhead had a winning record which is better than MSU’s overall record.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:33 pm to Olemissrebs2020
I mean, he’s not wrong…
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:42 pm to captdalton
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But if you look back at my post listing the number of 8 win seasons state has had since 1980, you can’t blame it all on Mike Leach dying.
That's the post I'm talking about. You said Moorhead was knee jerk firing, feel like the reasoning behind his firing has been beat to death in this thread, and it was far from reactionary, he underperformed, lacked discipline and as a result, we were on a downward trajectory.
Regardless, State made an obvious upgrade and hired an established sitting P5 coach. That coach died one week before signing day. resulting in the instability we've experienced.
Firing Joe Moorhead will always be a net positive for our program.
And if you're implying that we shouldn't strive to win more football games and just accept our past will always be our future then you're stupid as frick.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 3:55 pm to Olemissrebs2020
UF is not a lateral job coming from MSU c'mon man.
Moorehead seemed weird to me. Just didn't fit in IDK.
Thoughts State fans?
Moorehead seemed weird to me. Just didn't fit in IDK.
Thoughts State fans?
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:18 pm to Defiler
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UF is not a lateral job coming from MSU c'mon man. Moorehead seemed weird to me. Just didn't fit in IDK. Thoughts State fans?
As weird as it sounds in some ways he was a good fit and other ways he was a terrible fit. He was a nice guy but kind of a pushover. Blue collar guy but Pennsylvania blue collar which is a little different than Mississippi.
I think he genuinely liked being in Starkville, maybe moreso than most other State coaches, and connected well with recruits and local media. Everyone on the State beat says that he was by far the friendliest coach they’ve ever had when it came to dealing with the media.
But he just totally lost the locker room at a certain point and lost his fanbase pretty quick too. And then started backpedaling on things he said previously and being antagonistic. He comes in the door talking about ring sizes, how he’s there to elevate the program not just maintain it, and his big thing was “point the thumb, not the finger”. Before long his tone changed to “I didn’t inherit the ‘85 Bears” and “I don’t care what Bob from Bogue Chitto thinks about me” and trying to get sympathy points by saying fans were mean to his college aged daughter. He also had that weird press conference after his last Egg Bowl where he said “yall are gonna have to drag my Yankee arse outta here” and anyone who didn’t like it could “kick rocks and pound sand”.
I got the sense he maybe paid attention to social media and local radio/podcasts more than he should’ve. He was way more sensitive about what people thought of him than any State coach in my lifetime.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:48 pm to Captain Falcon
Anyone that thinks that going from State to Florida is a lateral move is seriously lacking in perception.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 4:52 pm to MNW
I think that if you aren’t willing to give a coach three seasons to prove themselves, you shouldn’t hire them in the first place. If you have that little confidence then hire someone else or keep your current coach. Short of a scandal, firing a coach after two years is doing a disservice to everyone; the coach, the fans, and the program. Coaching changes really wreck recruiting, and changing coaches every two or three years ensures you won’t have the players you need to compete even if you make a good coaching hire.
Good luck with your next coaching search. I am predicting it will be in 2027, but 2026 wouldn’t surprise me.
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And if you're implying that we shouldn't strive to win more football games and just accept our past will always be our future then you're stupid as frick.
Good luck with your next coaching search. I am predicting it will be in 2027, but 2026 wouldn’t surprise me.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:00 pm to captdalton
The fact that Mullen wasn’t on the hot seat after going 6-7 in his 8th season proves that Moorhead is 100% correct. Dan had a job for life because he had a winning record against Ole Miss and never missed a bowl after his first year.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 5:02 pm
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