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re: Former LSU safety Eric Reid joins Kaepernick protest

Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:31 am to
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:31 am to
I completely agree with you. I don't agree with their delivery but fully respect their right to do so. All I'm saying is that there is a difference in actually protesting America, and then sitting through the national anthem to get a BLM message across.

Again, it was just a mechanism. Not a smart one of course but I highly doubt Reid (can't speak for Kap-he keeps saying extremely dumb things) is anti American. Check his Twitter out. He's generally pretty rational in his views. I definitely wish he'd have found another more impactful way to get his message out, because he is very intelligent.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:32 am to
Is anybody else canceling their Sunday Ticket if this thing takes off? I'm not paying $50/month for an oppression lesson.
This post was edited on 9/2/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:32 am to
As I said, they are dishonoring those who served to push a blind and ignorant position.

Unless they really do believe in BLM's stances that there should be a disruption in the Western nuclear family and it's a positive to have blacks raised in a village atmosphere, without structured parental guidance. And they both agree that transgenders, queers and globalism is the way to go.

All one needs do, is look at their mission statements and website.

I think folks also have every right to ridicule and protest them and speak out against them, when they use their public platform to voice their views. No?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43897 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:33 am to
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Is anybody else canceling their Sunday Ticket if this thing takes off? I'm not paying $50/month for an oppression lesson.


I cancelled that shite years ago. The Redzone channel comes standard with the sports package from Cable One.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:33 am to
The players have the right to protest.

The fans have the right to disagree and boycott buying tickets and merchandise.

Owners have the right to bench/cut those players because it is causing distractions or losing money.


That's how this country works.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:33 am to
It's within anyone's right to protest whatever they want. No one is saying it doesn't come with criticism. I'm simply saying there is a difference. Playing ignorant is generally pretty telling.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:34 am to
frick him, I wouldn't mind if we tossed all his shite out of the football ops building.
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
3934 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:34 am to
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Their noise on the Kap issue reveals their issues aren't just with the violent fringe, but that they're actually opposed to any sort of protest against institutional and social inequality


Exactly. They call for BLM to be peaceful but then rage at this guy for sitting down and being silent lol.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:34 am to
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I'll say what I said on the TR. faux patriotism is hysterical. Folks consistently trash America, its president, the nominees, foreign affairs, government, etc

But as soon as someone protests in a non violent way mind you, it's this huge deal. I may not agree with Reid in the slightest, but it's his right to call attention to something he feels is important. That's America and that's his right. I've no issue with it.


and it is my right to call him a jackass who has zero understanding of what national symbols stand for
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:35 am to
I never stated otherwise. Quite the opposite actually.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Nice straw man you've got right there. Not remotely comparable


What?We're comparing the right to protest,correct?
But that doesn't matter now,right?It's about the particular cause?

So maybe now we can set up a government commitee to determine who exactly has "just causes" and who doesn't in regards to protest.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15402 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Exactly. They call for BLM to be peaceful but then rage at this guy for sitting down and being silent lol.



Asking protesters to be peaceful and for someone to show the minimum amount of respect for a nation's symbol is so horrible. MY GOD WE ARE A TOTALITARIAN COUNTRY!! MIGHT AS WELL CALL IT UNITED STATES OF NAZIS!!! AM RIGHT HUH?
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:36 am to
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It is indeed their right to protest, but what shouldn't be lost is that the right to free speech does not equal the right to speech without consequences.

In this case, the consequences are at the the very least a world of shait thrown their way. At best, I hope Kaepernick never plays a down. As for me, if I saw his arse injured on a play I'd exercise my free speech right and stand and cheer.

Frick his sorry, worthless arse.

What we're your thoughts when Phil Robertson's comments jeopardized Duck Dynasty's place at TLC?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:36 am to
You're rambling. Westboro has the right to protest. Players have a right to protest. But just because it's protesting, it doesn't make one like the other. Simplifying something of this nature is idiotic.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I'm still waiting - and I may well have missed it - for the national story of police shooting someone who was completely innocent and had zero criminal history. All of the national stories have really involved people who were, for lack of a better word, career criminals. They were known by local police already, so the police were right to be cautious


Because it doesn't happen. The narrative that cops just go out there and shoot black people for being black is ridiculous. Police shoot people and sometimes they are wrong for shooting to kill them but there was something that happened to escalate it to that point. Cops don't just show up guns hot unless something major went down before hand.

Best way to not get shot by cops for those that don't know. Don't do crime is a good start but if you do when the cops show up just listen to them and be respectful. Like it or not cops are the law and you should respect that.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:37 am to
Your original post just seemed to take offense that folks were voicing their opinions about their ignorance in their protests.
Posted by The Tom Arnold
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2015
1549 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:38 am to
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xactly. They call for BLM to be peaceful but then rage at this guy for sitting down and being silent lol.


You can spin any situation to fit your viewpoint, but at the end of the day, you will always look like a jackass.

He can get his point across without shitting all over the flag and the men and women who die to give him the right to be a douche.

Now run back to Facebook and get some more material.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:40 am to
It's just a retarded protest, kap and Reid are the black version of nasty ugly white sjw losers. They have both been privileged from the start and have never been oppressed once in their life time.

It's a stupid protest over retard criminals being killed. No one is being oppressed by the US gov, especially minorities considering the programs they can use.

If you are poor and oppressed in America it is because you are fricking lazy. We have so many grants to open the door to an education and better life.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I'm simply saying there is a difference.


Who exactly determines the "difference"?God forbid,I certainly wouldn't want to.

Point is,what Kaepernick did was just as offensive to me as the Westboro Baptist lunatics but I completely understand those who would disagree with my statement.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50675 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 9:40 am to
quote:

What we're your thoughts when Phil Robertson's comments jeopardized Duck Dynasty's place at TLC?



Are you trying to use an example of free speech having consequences as an argument against free speech having consequences?

Personally, I have never had any issues with anything Phil Robertson has said publicly. That doesn't mean TLC doesn't have the right to remove him from their programming if they do have a problem with the things he says.
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