re: For all the criticism of the CFP, I think we can call the winner the conclusive Champ.

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Indiana, SMU, Boise, Notre Dame, Arizona State, Penn State

Teams that have the talent:
Bama (discrepancies at QB)
Georgia (holes at QB/WR)
Texas (holes at RB)
Ohio State (hole at HC, QB)

I guess Oregon sits there with no immediate holes but no big wins since they needed to bushleague the rule book to beat OhioState.

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So they are all mediocre?

My point is that there is no way to determine which team is best, so we might as well cast with a bigger net since there are over a hundred teams and give people a chance. I think it is just as important that some of the teams from "lesser" conferences get a playoff berth, rather than keep them out because they might upset a true title contender. These teams deserve to have the playoff experience. The bowls are antiquated the way they are. They can host all the playoff games now and there will be much more interest and probably close to zero opt outs.

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My point is that there is no way to determine which team is best

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Oregon is the only undefeated team. A win in their bowl game (under the old pre-BCS system) and they are the undisputed champion.

The BCS and the playoffs are unnecessary and even a detriment to college football.

The old 12-game entire season "playoff" is what made college football king.

All the playoffs do is water down the product and make it just like the NFL.

The 12-game season and bowl games are what separated college football from the NFL and the main reason why it was so much better.

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exactly what I have wanted ever since I was a child: a true playoff format where an undisputed winner could be crowned. That's a good thing.

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Yeah! Now let’s replicate at the high school level. We must know who the National champion is! There are too many competing claims ever year

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The cfp basically made it where games during the season didn't count. Add more teams and it will mean even less.

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Here's a scenario for ya...

SEC Team rests its first and second string players during non-conference games - loses all four of them - then goes 7-1 in conference play and wins the SECCG.

SEC Team not only goes to the playoffs with a 7-5 regular season record, but also earns a first-round bye as the conference champ.

Yay, progress.

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Indiana, SMU, Boise, Notre Dame, Arizona State, Penn State

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These teams getting no respect. Duly noted. I’m gonna lmfao if one of them wins it.

Every team had their chance. That’s what we were looking for.

Also, 12 teams is too many

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For all the criticism of the CFP, I think we can call the winner the conclusive Champ.

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In one sense, it has ALWAYS been conclusive since the BCS ended the poll era. The winning team won on the field by the rules in place. Same will happen now.


However, the "playoff winner vs best team" or "playoff winner vs team with best overall season" debates will often increase instead of decrease.

There will be years where a 3 loss team beats a 15-0 team in an OT final (maybe even the team they've already lost to twice that year).

The 12-3 team will be conclusive champion instead of the 15-1 team just like in the NFL or NCAA basketball tourney.

But, it really won't be much different than it's been since the 1990s.

Bama fans losing it… bwahaha

It ain’t perfect and they still need to make some tweaks, but I’m glad it’s no longer a beauty contest.

And yeah you can probably figure out who’s the best from the top 4 but it was criminal that undefeated FSU got left out last year. It’d be like Georgia getting left out because Beck got hurt.

The more you can move the decision from the idiots with opinions and settle things on the field the better.

And though I think college football should be split into two divisions, until it is then I’m glad the smaller schools get a shot to play for something. Anyway remember when Marshall was the hot program with Leftwich, Pennington, Randy Moss, etc? Would’ve been fun to see what they could do in a playoff.