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re: For all of those arguing for scheduling more OOC cupcakes as threatened by Bama's AD.

Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:24 am to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:24 am to
I would argue they should not be in the same season given the current CFP format. But I also have doubts some of these were going to remain on the schedule anyway. A lot of conference realignment happened since they were initially announced.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:24 am to
I hope the CFP goes to 24 teams and just eliminates the bowl system all together. Just be done with this in-between system.
Posted by zdfger
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:27 am to
This is a general post not specific to Capstone. I’m confused .Most of y’all say how overrated the Big 10 ACC and ND are and how they wouldn’t be 500 in the SEC Etc., If they’re that average to below average, what’s the problem with scheduling them then?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:30 am to
I’ve never said that. I think the leagues like the Big Ten or ACC lack the depth of the SEC. But their top teams are still talented programs. Scheduling two of them in OOC just seems like an unnecessary risk given how the CFP committee doesn’t really value SOS.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:32 am to
If Alabama would have beaten a good OOC opponent this year they probably would’ve gotten the nod over SMU. Tough luck that Wisconsin ended up being bad, but that’s college football scheduling.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Can you do SC too, please?


Sure.

Wins better than Boise St's best win (#44 UNLV):
#16 Clemson
#19 Texas A&M
#33 Oklahoma
#34 Missouri
#39 Vanderbilt


Contrast to Alabama:
#8 Georgia
#12 South Carolina
#17 LSU
#34 Missouri
#42 Auburn
#43 Wisconsin

And Ole Miss:
#8 Georgia
#12 South Carolina
#33 Oklahoma
Posted by TexasTiger_08
Texas
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:36 am to
A non-champion 9-3 SMU, Clemson, or Boise isn't getting in over a 9-3 Bama in any year. Sounds like they ARE all based on merit to me. Bama screwed Bama. End of story.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:38 am to
quote:

A non-champion 9-3 SMU, Clemson, or Boise isn't getting in over a 9-3 Bama in any year. Sounds like they ARE all based on merit to me. Bama screwed Bama. End of story.


Why did you make up a scenario that didn't happen instead of telling me about their resumes this year?

YOU CAN'T DO IT. Nobody can.

Posted by zdfger
Member since Dec 2020
664 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:39 am to
I realize you didn’t say it. I said in my post it’s a general comment and not specific to you
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:40 am to
Or incorporate the bowls into the system.
Posted by TexasTiger_08
Texas
Member since Dec 2021
1480 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:54 am to
I have multiple times now acknowledged that Bama has a stronger resume/SOS than those teams. That's why you get the benefit of the doubt with THREE losses.

Bama is basically given an extra win due to superior SOS. What more do you want??
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:57 am to
quote:

For all of those arguing for scheduling more OOC cupcakes as threatened by Bama's AD.


He scheduled WKU, USF, Mercer, and Wisconsin this season, he can EAD all his team's losses were to SEC opponents
Posted by mikecno
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:01 pm to
Crybaby response by Alabama AD ... accept that you were a marginal team for the playoff and would have gotten in if you would have beaten one of two 6-6 teams. And work to do better next year
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

I have multiple times now acknowledged that Bama has a stronger resume/SOS than those teams. That's why you get the benefit of the doubt with THREE losses.

Bama is basically given an extra win due to superior SOS. What more do you want??


For all teams to be judged based on merit obviously. I've said so plain as day over and over.

You keep pointing to teams that are judged based on merit while completely ignoring the other teams that aren't.

Yes, Alabama is ranked higher than Ole Miss and USC based on merit. Yes, Alabama is given a higher spot than Miami based on merit. Not sure Ole Miss and USC really belong below Miami, but at least it's a merit based argument.

And another thing all 4 of those teams have in common is that they were jumped by 3 teams that were not judged based on the same standards. DEI spots.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:20 pm to
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South Carolina has just as good of a resume as Bama.


Missing a quality win due to the H2H and Alabama having Georgia.

Better on the loss side for sure.

In reality, the SEC presented 3 different merit based scenarios with Alabama, Ole Miss and USC.

You have Alabama, who is 3-1 against ranked teams, but then has the 2 unranked losses.

You have Ole Miss who is 2-0 against ranked teams, and won by bigger margins than Alabama, but has 3 pretty bad losses.

And you have USC who is 2-2 against ranked teams, with the 2 losses being to the other 2 teams being mentioned. However, they lack the bad losses the other 2 have and their wins aren't quite as good.

All 3 got DEI jumped by Clemson, SMU and Boise St.

This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 12:21 pm
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