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re: For all of those arguing for scheduling more OOC cupcakes as threatened by Bama's AD.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
Oh. Ok. Gotcha. Still a great (and ballsy) stretch of games.
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:45 am to SemperFiDawg
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We need more meaningful games not less.
frick that. I'll take meaningful games in the playoff over any other time. If SOS is such a minor criteria, there is absolutely zero point in trying to bump it up.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:48 am to Diamondawg
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Seriously one of the big reasons I stopped buying season tickets
Exactly, what the AD and Saban were pointing out is that they previously scheduled Ohio State, Florida State, Texas (pre-SEC) solely to provide a better experience for the fans, and the committee is now disincentivizing teams to do so.
The media members who don't seem to understand their comments are the same media members who get on TV and prop up TCU as a team deserving to be in the playoffs, then disappear when an SEC beats them by 60 in the championship game.
And then the next year, those same media members are clamoring for the next TCU to be in, all over again.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:07 am to SemperFiDawg
SOS is WHY 9-3 Bama was even being considered over 10-2 teams like Miami and BYU. I don’t understand the SOS argument. It’s clear they factor that in. Bama just had two really bad losses.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:17 am to SemperFiDawg
No SEC team missed the playoff due to OOC losses.
They missed the playoff due to conference losses.
Not sure how playing fewer OOC opponents of value helps.
They missed the playoff due to conference losses.
Not sure how playing fewer OOC opponents of value helps.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:29 am to Diamondawg
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Seriously one of the big reasons I stopped buying season tickets.
BINGO
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:32 am to SemperFiDawg
Not sure they should schedule more teams they should be able to beat; they already missed the playoffs because they lost to enough teams they shouldn't have. And they only get three of them anyway. Stop losing to Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and Florida, and they'll be okay.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:38 am to SemperFiDawg
I think the real point is that SoS should be a bigger factor and he is pointing out that there is no reason to play these types of games if teams only have the potential to be punished for them.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:42 am to DawginSC
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No SEC team missed the playoff due to OOC losses.
They missed the playoff due to conference losses.
Not sure how playing fewer OOC opponents of value helps.
It doesn't.
I'm far more concerned about keep teams out who got an extra loss due to a conference title game. Unless their record was already on the bubble beforehand or they get boat raced, there's no reason to bump them.
Bama, Ole Miss, Miami, and South Carolina, you had your shot. Beat one of those SEC teams you should have, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. If y'all can get beat by the likes of Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, Florida, LSU and Kentucky, then why should anyone expect you to make it out of the first round?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:42 am to TexasTiger_08
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Bama just had two really bad losses.
Oklahoma is rated higher in the Sagrin rankings than Boise St who made the playoffs as the #3 seed with a bye.
Bad loss for Alabama while at the same time being rated higher than the #3 playoff seed.
SoS only matters for some people. Just like DEI where some people are forced to get in based on merit, and other people get in because they have different standards applied to them because of their claimed place in the overall hierarchy.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:43 am to DawginSC
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No SEC team missed the playoff due to OOC losses.
They missed the playoff due to conference losses.
Not sure how playing fewer OOC opponents of value helps.
Congrats, you managed to 100% miss the entire point.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:45 am to 3down10
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Boise St
They are nearly tied in Sagarin.
You can throw around computer rankings but I watched Boise State nearly knock off Oregon in week 2. Oklahoma beat Houston by 4 points at home. Results matter.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:45 am to 3down10
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Oklahoma is rated higher in the Sagrin rankings than Boise St who made the playoffs as the #3 seed with a bye.
Bad loss for Alabama while at the same time being rated higher than the #3 playoff seed.
SoS only matters for some people. Just like DEI where some people are forced to get in based on merit, and other people get in because they have different standards applied to them because of their claimed place in the overall hierarchy.
No, people get it, but they also understand it. Perhaps the committee shouldn't have had Boise, SMU, and Indiana so high, but they did. They wouldn't have if Bama, Ole Miss, Miami, BYU, and South Carolina had one the games they were supposed to.
Your fan entitlement is showing. Win won(edited) of those games you were supposed to. It was in y'all's hands and y'all dropped it.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:45 am to SemperFiDawg
I stated this a long time ago, SEC teams cannibalized each other why not beat the hell out of Mercer annually.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:47 am to SemperFiDawg
Too many teams play the weak OOC game to get to 6-6 and get a big payout...
When the CFP goes to 16 teams its gonna kill the big payout Bowls....
Bowl games are kinda irrelevant already and the opt outs devalue it even more ....
Play a coupla big boys OOC and see what happens...
When the CFP goes to 16 teams its gonna kill the big payout Bowls....
Bowl games are kinda irrelevant already and the opt outs devalue it even more ....
Play a coupla big boys OOC and see what happens...
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:51 am to TexasTiger_08
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They are nearly tied in Sagarin.
You can throw around computer rankings but I watched Boise State nearly knock off Oregon in week 2. Oklahoma beat Houston by 4 points at home. Results matter.
Oh, nearly tied so Boise St is just barely behind Oklahoma. Well that changes everyone.
And it's funny how you saw the one game, and you will mention Oklahoma beating Houston by 4 points at home.
How about Boise St with a 4 point win over Wyoming? 7 point win over Nevada.
It must be that 5 point win over UNLV which is Boise St's biggest win of the season.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:54 am to 3down10
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How about Boise St with a 4 point win over Wyoming? 7 point win over Nevada.
It must be that 5 point win over UNLV which is Boise St's biggest win of the season.
How about Bama losing to Oklahoma and Vanderbilt?
How about Ole Miss losing to LSU, Kentucky, and Florida?
How about Miami losing to Syracuse and Ga Tech?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Next year, for example, tons of opportunities for wins, but way too many clustered in the ACC.
It made sense when scheduling them as the ACC is much closer geographically, but sadly they're not on part with the B1G.
On the flip side, their conference champ going 0-2 against the SEC is potential ammunition for next year.
The committee did, essentially, punish CLEMSON for a strong OOC though.
SMU and Clemson ended up with identical records outside of OOC play (8-1 w/ CCG included). The difference in records is that Clemson played two ranked opponents (Georgia and South Carolina), losing both; SMU played one (BYU) who ended up ranked below both and lost to them. Clemson basically ended up being seeded lower because they played Georgia while SMU played Nevada.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:56 am to 3down10
Wins are wins. I noticed you don't want to talk about Vanderbilt sitting there at #56 a team ranked worse than UNLV....
Anyway SOS is why you get the benefit of the doubt at 9-3. My entire point. You should consider yourself lucky to be in the conversation with 3 losses.
Anyway SOS is why you get the benefit of the doubt at 9-3. My entire point. You should consider yourself lucky to be in the conversation with 3 losses.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:58 am to TexasTiger_08
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Wins are wins. I noticed you don't want to talk about Vanderbilt sitting there at #56 a team ranked worse than UNLV....
Anyway SOS is why you get the benefit of the doubt at 9-3. My entire point. You should consider yourself lucky to be in the conversation with 3 losses.
If wins are wins there is no reason to play tough games.
That's the entire point of this thread dufus.
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