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re: Florida fans, does this game change your opinion of Napier?

Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:40 pm to
he should have already been fired
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7827 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:41 pm to
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As soon as DJ gets hurt, Georgia has nothing deep to respect, nothing from the QB to respect and they can load the box. UF manages 13 yards in the 2nd half until the late scoring drive.


Not counting the scoring drive is like not counting Lagways one successful pass play.

Without that play, UF with Lagway had drives of 17, 4, 6 and -2. They had 43 on the one pass play by Lagway that went for a TD. His backup had two drives of 40+ yards.

I don't know why you think Lagway was giving UGA any more problems defensively than his backup did.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7827 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:45 pm to
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It was blown coverage because of the play action. That’s literally the reason you run play action is to deceive the LB and safeties.

Not a fluke. It’s the play design, dumbass


It was the defense running on the field unexpectedly after a turnover and biting on a play action they normally wouldn't.

They didn't bite of those play actions at any other time.

That makes it... a fluke. It was a good play call given the situation, but it's not like the play action was working for UF at all today other than that one play. They did try it several times before and after.

UF was doing well in the game due to UGA turnovers. Not due to a QB who put up 65 combined rushing and passing yards in 26 minutes and completed 33% of his passes for UF.

You're deluding yourself if you think he was playing well in that game.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23927 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:53 pm to
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With the schedule they were dealt, if he gets 6-7 wins he is coming back for another year



The next 3 games are absolutely freakin brutal
Posted by MurphyGator
Member since Jul 2021
1756 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:03 pm to
No
Posted by brambo
Member since Aug 2018
385 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:47 pm to
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He had completed 2 passes in the 26 minutes he played. Rushing and passing he'd had a total of 65 yards.


Why do old people have such a hard time understanding that in modern football, a mobile quarterback with an accurate deep ball opens up the running lanes for the RB?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:51 pm to
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Why do old people have such a hard time understanding that in modern football, a mobile quarterback with an accurate deep ball opens up the running lanes for the RB?


Because he refuses to give Florida any credit. He’s a die hard Georgia fan.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
12158 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:52 pm to
Credit for what? Sucking for almost 20 years?
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:29 pm to
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I hope they fire him and frick themselves even further.
How would firing a terrible coach hurt the program further?

He's currently 15-18 overall, likely to finish 16-21 at best, or 15-22 with a loss to FSU (with the Yale QB it's possible).

51st ranked recruiting class.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:44 pm to
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How would firing a terrible coach hurt the program further?

He's currently 15-18 overall, likely to finish 16-21 at best, or 15-22 with a loss to FSU (with the Yale QB it's possible).

51st ranked recruiting class.



Because he's not a terrible coach.
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
8417 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:45 pm to
If they lose to the seminoles somehow, it’s over. Haha
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:48 pm to
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Because he's not a terrible coach.
Based on what exactly?
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:49 pm to
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If they lose to the seminoles somehow, it’s over. Haha
If Lagway is indeed out for the entire season and the QB is the kid from Yale, that game will be a loss.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7827 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:53 pm to
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Why do old people have such a hard time understanding that in modern football, a mobile quarterback with an accurate deep ball opens up the running lanes for the RB?


Except it didn't for Lagway.

He had one successful play. The rest of his drives went nowhere (longest was 17 yards).

Lagway's replacement had two drives of 40+ yards. Lagway had one, and it all came on one play where UGA had a busted coverage after having to rush the defense on to the field after a turnover.

Lagway wasn't why UF was doing well in the first half. UGA turning the ball over was why UF was doing well. Lagway was not doing any better than his replacement did, which is why I say him getting hurt wouldn't have changed much.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16046 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:56 pm to
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No. He's needs to go.


Honest question - who could (or would) Florida hire that's better at this point? Napier seems like he has his players in his corner and playing hard for him, and despite the Lagway injury, on an upward trajectory.

You fire your coaching staff and lose pretty much everyone that matters, at least a majority of your players that make you competitive right now with that upward trajectory. The SEC will be an even bigger mess next year than this year, and having your core contributors back will be huge for any team in the league.

Why would you want to reset all of that with yet another unknown coaching staff?
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:56 pm to
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I think his time has run up. Next guy inheriting a very good situation though
He's done a few good things but burned up too much good will early on to be viable moving forward.

Probably can't take advantage of the stuff he did well too because his negatives outweigh his strengths.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18470 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:00 am to
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They called it significant but I'm betting he'll be back this year
Maybe if you guys make a bowl.

If is a Grade 2 or worse he won't be back for the regular season.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:01 am to
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Based on what exactly?


What he's done in his career. He improved Louisiana and Florida has slowly gotten better after the Mullen years.

No doubt it hasn't been an immediate turn around, but he took over a poorly recruited/culture 6-7 team that had fallen apart in the previous year. That team lost to many unranked teams.

And while his record has looked similar, he's played a tougher and tougher schedule. The majority of his losses are to ranked teams. He's playing true freshman, and is now down to his 3rd string QB. They still played well today.

Evidence of this is that most people agree if he is fired, whoever Florida hires will be given the reigns of a good team, better than what he inherited.

Who are they going to hire to replace him? Kiffin? The guy who has never once in his entire career won a big game, lacks maturity and is best known for his mouth and making bad decisions?

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7827 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:03 am to
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Honest question - who could (or would) Florida hire that's better at this point?


Kiffin.

The reality is that Florida has something Ole Miss doesn't... talent.

Kiffin has done a nice job getting Ole miss to a 9-10 win team. But if you look at the 247 talent composite, even with transfers Ole Miss has just 30 blue chips on their roster. That's not really enough to win a title. The common belief is that it has to be above 50% (so 42-43 guys who were 4+ stars).

Florida? They have 50 blue chips this year. And Napier's just a midling recruiter. That's enough to win titles with a good coach.

Just for comparison, Alabama has 67, OSU has 69 and UGA has 69. Texas has 61 and everyone else is in the 50's. UF is a good job because of that talent base.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:04 am to
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Kiffin.

The reality is that Florida has something Ole Miss doesn't... talent.

Kiffin has done a nice job getting Ole miss to a 9-10 win team. But if you look at the 247 talent composite, even with transfers Ole Miss has just 30 blue chips on their roster. That's not really enough to win a title. The common belief is that it has to be above 50% (so 42-43 guys who were 4+ stars).

Florida? They have 50 blue chips this year. And Napier's just a midling recruiter. That's enough to win titles with a good coach.

Just for comparison, Alabama has 67, OSU has 69 and UGA has 69. Texas has 61 and everyone else is in the 50's. UF is a good job because of that talent base.


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