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re: Florida Coaches with an SEC Title?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:46 pm to captdalton
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:46 pm to captdalton
Drop the two best coaches from any program’s history and it dramatically changes things.
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:47 pm to Drewbie
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Florida football is basically Duke basketball. Lots of program prestige from a coaching tenure or two and not much else.
This can be said about literally 90% of football programs lmao.
Only difference is Florida turned a 20 year stretch into a more impressive run in the sport than 90% of schools have in the 100 years they played the game.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:47 pm to GoGators1995
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I'm shocked that a Bama fan who still counts their vacated wins doesn't recognize our vacated SEC title.
And Alabama, along with Auburn and Miss. State voted with us that we should keep it.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:50 pm to FireDanMullen
quote:Correct.
This can be said about literally 90% of football programs lmao.
quote:Debatable.
Only difference is Florida turned a 20 year stretch into a more impressive run in the sport than 90% of schools have in the 100 years they played the game.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:50 pm to borotiger
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Excluding Bryant and Saban...
You realize how asinine of a comparison this is?
Wade, Thomas, Stallings won Titles, Hell, Mike Dubose won an SEC title
Barners….
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:51 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:Sorry to break it to you but our first SEC championship was in 1984. I have a Coca Cola bottle to prove it.
There was no SEC champion in 1984. UF was ineligible. Title should have gone to LSU.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:55 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Sorry to break it to you but our first SEC championship was in 1984. I have a Coca Cola bottle to prove it
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:58 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
We’ll be celebrating that title vs UK this October. 40 year anniversary. Damn, I’m old.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:59 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
The trophy is still in Gainesville somewhere.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:23 pm to GoGators1995
So outside of Spurrier and Meyer, Florida has won one additional SEC title all time. That is three Florida coaches in the last 100 years that have won a title.
For comparison sake, here is a sampling of how many different coaches have won a SEC title at other programs and total number of SEC titles (counting all vacated wins/titles).
Florida - 3 different coaches; 8 conference titles
Alabama - 8; 30
LSU - 9; 12
Georgia - 4; 14
Tennessee - 5; 13
Auburn - 6 ; 8
Mississippi State - 1; 1
Ole Miss - 1; 6
With Spurrier and Meyer, Florida is comparable to Auburn. Without them they would have been Mississippi State.
Florida owes it’s legacy and perception to Steve Spurrier. He is gone, and no remnants of him remain but some banners and trophies.
Who will Florida be able to hire that is the next Steve Spurrier?
For comparison sake, here is a sampling of how many different coaches have won a SEC title at other programs and total number of SEC titles (counting all vacated wins/titles).
Florida - 3 different coaches; 8 conference titles
Alabama - 8; 30
LSU - 9; 12
Georgia - 4; 14
Tennessee - 5; 13
Auburn - 6 ; 8
Mississippi State - 1; 1
Ole Miss - 1; 6
With Spurrier and Meyer, Florida is comparable to Auburn. Without them they would have been Mississippi State.
Florida owes it’s legacy and perception to Steve Spurrier. He is gone, and no remnants of him remain but some banners and trophies.
Who will Florida be able to hire that is the next Steve Spurrier?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:31 pm to captdalton
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Florida - 3 different coaches; 8 conference titles
Yet you still count Bama's forfeited and vacated wins.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:36 pm to captdalton
The entire state of Florida was irrelevant in football prior to the 80s. UF could have been great in the 80s but was sandbagged with sanctions. You don’t want to give Pell and Galen Hall credit is entirely up to you. UF was most certainly top tier in the 90s and 2000s. The last 15 years have been pretty disappointing. Gator fans are pretty realistic in who we are and are not. We are not a historic program but we did very well ~30 of the last 40 years.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:39 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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How many schools have won a title since the 90s, 2000s?
Since this conversation is limited to conference titles, this is who has won a SEC title since 1990 (number in parenthesis).
Alabama (11)
Florida (8)
Tennessee (3)
LSU (5)
Georgia (4)
Auburn (3)
So roughly 1/3 of conference members won a championship during that period.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:41 pm to GoGators1995
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Yet you still count Bama's forfeited and vacated wins
I am going off what each team’s wiki page lists. For the conference champ post above, that came from the SEC website.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:42 pm to GoGators1995
It should have not been vacated. An organization that penalizes a school for walk-ons sleeping on the floor of the football dorm is completely wrong.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:43 pm to captdalton
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I am going off what each team’s wiki page lists. For the conference champ post above, that came from the SEC website.
And what do those same sources say about all of your forfeited and vacated wins?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:44 pm to LuciusSulla
Was it a 4-6 vote?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:44 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
I will also say that in the last 40 years, UF has had to play the toughest schedule versus the top teams in cfb. Think about having to play so many SEC teams that have won titles plus FSU and Miami for many years. UF, FSU and Miami, I think had played in half the titles in like 25 - 30 of those years. UF seemed to always have to play the Auburns, LSUs, UGA, UT, and then the Miss schools when they were good and then had to face Bama in SEC CGs. UF has always had one of the toughest schedules each year, which I believe is why we’ve never had a perfect season. We’d end up playing FSU who cake walked into the bowls, healthy.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:45 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
"But take away Spurrier and Urban!"
Bama is the only SEC program that's won (actually won, not claimed, but won on the field) more titles than UF.
Bama is the only SEC program that's won (actually won, not claimed, but won on the field) more titles than UF.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:45 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Yeah.
Florida, Miss. State, Alabama, and Auburn for.
Tennessee, Ole Miss, LSU, Vandy, Tennessee, and Kentucky against.
Vandy and Tennessee lobbied for the vote in the first place.
Florida, Miss. State, Alabama, and Auburn for.
Tennessee, Ole Miss, LSU, Vandy, Tennessee, and Kentucky against.
Vandy and Tennessee lobbied for the vote in the first place.
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